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I learnt recently on another forum that you aren't meant to remove the transparent plastic film that is often covering puncture patches (proper ones, not the instant sticking ones).
This is a complete relevation to me. I'd almost given up trying to fix tubes as the repairs so often failed despite following usual rules. So now I have a backlog to catch up on this winter!
@amir that is a revelation is it meant to help get the glue out to and beyond the circumference of the patch? I used to leave them on
I think it helps to avoid the patch sticking to the tyre. Also trying to remove it can dislodge the patch - even a little bit is a problem
Hmm. I always understood it to be that it wasn't necessary to remove the plastic film, not that it was wrong to remove it. But there are plenty of examples where people advise to remove it Thus:
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/product-news/fix-a-puncture-142674
Number one most-ist important rule for puncture repair:
You need to leave the glue long enough to dry before applying the patch. Absolute minimum of 5 minutes, ideally 10. If you skimp on the time (let's say you're under pressure from your roadside buddies), it's guaranteed to lead to failure.
Also, once the patch is on, only ever pump up the tube inside the tyre. And pump it hard. That pressure helps the patch stick.
The plastic film is indeed there to stop surplus glue sticking to the tyre. It's also worth adding some chalk (grated from a stick) to any glue over-spill
What @neddie said.
I will add inflate deflate inflate
Love the chalk, mini grater tiny sandpaper and funny wee tube a proper Pword Repair Kit should contain
A clingfilm twist of talc is an easy thing to fit in the puncture repair kit. But best to avoid any...imperial entanglements.
@snowy, that is pushing it? Why not just take a spare tube? If you are not willing to grate the chalk and use the strange wee rubber tube (what is the wee rubber tube for anyway?)
I carry both a tube and a repair kit. The fairies have been known to strike twice and sometimes even three times.
Good man snowy. I too roll with two tubes and a repair kit.
I shall bore the newbies by repeating my etape Caledonia. Tale where (the event that was sabotaged by carpet tacks). We were stopped at the top of schiehallion, not the actual mountain but the road.
I saw a furious Mamil fling a £5k pinarello (this was 2009) over the fence on to the moor as he had used both his Co2:canisters,
Apparently tubeless with slime inside is the future.
Tubeless is great until you get an unsealable flat, at which point you have an unholy mess to contend with. I run tubeless to get lower pressures without pinch flats on the ‘interesting’ road surfaces we have but if they were smoother I’d probably stick with tubes.
The wee rubber tube was for old style valves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunlop_valve
Almost time to visit the pool on a green '77 Stowaway. It's a green which only existed in the '70s.
Upset yesterday to see a possessive S where it should be a plural in the titles for UFO. Still a great theme tune but we didn't all end up in lamé jumpsuits and purple wigs in 1980.
I tend to take tubes. The longer the ride, the more I take. For that reason, the inflate in tyre tip for helping to set the repair isn't practical. Repaired tubes go in the drawer for future use rather than back on the bike
Extra tubes always better than roadside. Never use a tyre lever to put on if it can be avoided. Kneeding round from valve is best as most here know. Worth having very small amount of air in new tube to help it seat.
Some tyres come off and on by thumb power alone. Under 28mm wide tyres become harder though to work with.
Depends on wheels. Mavic open pro quite easy to get tyres on
“Number one most-ist important rule for puncture repair:
You need to leave the glue long enough to dry before applying the patch.”
Totally!
I’m sure I’ve said on here before -
When I used to teach kids about fixing punctures, I used to ask - ‘what’s the most important thing to do after putting the glue on?’
Most said ‘put the patch on’. Fair enough.
A few said ‘put the chalk on’.
Well that would account for some repair failures!
No.
Answer -
“Wait”.
I was today old when I learnt that people still use sandpaper, chalk & glue. I thought people only really used the preglued things these days. Never had a problem with the in +10 years.
That said I think/feel I have lower than usual Pword interactions as I always fit the most Pword-proof tyres I can find. Am happy to take the extra weight and poor rolling performance (although dubious that's even a thing anyway when @100psi).
I think it's sweet you all still carry your little tin. Bless.
I Love My Tin
@iainmcr, I moved to self adhesive patches after a few tubes of glue dried up on me. I didn't see the point in buying a fresh tube each time I had a puncture. I still have some in the house but don't carry it on the road.
On the road I carry inner tubes and emergency self adhesive patches.
Recently I moved to tubeless as they came with new wheels. So far I've had one pothole puncture which was unrecoverable and ripped the sidewall. Plus one self sealed puncture. Not convinced I'll stick with them once tyres wear out.
EVen when I have been bothered to try a roadside repair rather than replacement I still replaced the tube when I got home as I hate the non-roundness conferred by a patched tube where the patched bit is slightly constricted.
Have decided I've had enough of tubeless on the 29er following today's nonsealing pword. Almost stranded in Polbeth.
Anything I need to know about de-tubelessing? Assume just remove the rim valve, clean the gunk and use a tube?
Yep. Makes a mess, kitchen roll is handy.
Nobody has mentioned anchovies.
Both times I had catastrophic blowouts with tubeless, big gashes in the tyre. I’ve never had a chance to try the anchovies.
You keep live anchovies inside your tubeless tyre and this prevents p words?
Doesn’t everyone?
You keep live anchovies inside your tubeless tyre and this prevents p words?
no, the anchovies act as an olfactory warning system.
Salt on roads in winter must detract? Though anchovies can be pungent. I burnt the pan handle when cooking my beans at lunchtime. Smelt of anchovies
As the late Marcella Hazan (very high on my domestic totem pole) observed: 'the oil in which anchovies are packed is rancid and must be discarded'.
Then the anchovies are washed and patted dry. Much nicer. Any spare anchovies from the tin thus treated are buried in salt in the fridge and re-hydrated before use.
Or just buy the salted ones?
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