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  1. chdot
    Admin

    Here’s someone who probably prefers cycling to soccer, but maybe this is more about scoring points.

    Win or lose, BBC Network news will claim the England team has brought “a divided nation together.” Ads will weave England’s millionaire squad into grinning support for the most unlikely products. Other sporting achievements – like the astonishing Tour de France wins by Mark Cavendish – will be overshadowed.

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/19435459.southgates-new-england-strengthens-cause-scottish-independence/

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. SRD
    Moderator

    Her podcast pal Pat Joyce is a big fan. so she's not speaking entirely gratuitously.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    Of course the accidental involvement of Cav in this is complicated…

    The Isle of Man is not, and never has been, part of the United Kingdom, nor is it part of the European Union. It is not represented at Westminster or in Brussels.

    The Island is a self-governing British Crown Dependency - as are Jersey and Guernsey in the Channel Islands - with its own parliament, government and laws. The UK government, on behalf of the Crown, is ultimately responsible for its international relations. The Queen, who is ‘Lord of Mann’, is the Manx Head of State and is represented on the Island by the Lieutenant Governor.

    https://www.gov.im/about-the-government/departments/cabinet-office/external-relations/constitution/

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. SRD
    Moderator

    am assuming Cav has British passport? (maybe not?)

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Manx passports are British

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_passport_(Isle_of_Man)

    Indeed complicated

    Endorsements section is interesting

    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. gembo
    Member

    Cav sounds as if he is Scouse?

    Not sure if he speaks French or just hugs Lulu?

    Peter Kennaugh sounds a little less Scouse

    Nigel Mansell not Scouse at all

    Posted 2 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    “Cav sounds as if he is Scouse?“

    He has said that’s actually an IoM accent.

    Not far away after all.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    Oh Dey do dat don’t Dey doh

    Terry BArry Dougias

    Certainly one of the accents prevalent on the Isle of Man

    You can get to it on a Jetski from Wigton so can’t be dat near L’pool.?

    Dad David also from the Isle and mum Adele from Yorkshire.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  9. SRD
    Moderator

    as i recall his mum lives in harrogate, which is why i asked.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    Harrogate is very nice. has a good Betty’s Tearoom. conference Centre, good cycling. Is in North Yorkshire for sure.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  11. crowriver
    Member

    If his mum is from Yorkshire then Cav qualifies as English in the same way that many Scotland football players qualify as Scottish. IIRC you only need a Scottish granny to play with a lion rampant badge, that's how desperate the SFA is.

    However I do believe the man who equalled the record set by the great Mercxx insist that he is a Manxman, and quite proud of it. So perhaps "British" rather than English?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  12. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    He rode for IoM at the Commonwealth Games at least a couple of times, so I would assume so

    Posted 2 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    Lives in Essex part of the time.

    Suspect (non personal) loyalties are

    1) cycling

    2) TdeF

    3) team(mates)

    It’s complicated -

    In his first years as an elite track rider, Cavendish won gold in the madison at the 2005 and 2008 UCI Track Cycling World Championships riding for Great Britain, with Rob Hayles and Bradley Wiggins respectively, and in the scratch race at the 2006 Commonwealth Games riding for Isle of Man.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  14. SRD
    Moderator

    On another topic… posted this on twitter y’day. Anyone know the answer?

    In the @itvcycling discussion of the groupetto, did @Chris_Boardman have world bands on his sleeves in the archive film clip? I thought his bands were for time trial? Can you wear them on normal jersey /stage?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  15. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Seems not under current rules:

    "Reigning UCI World Champions are entitled to wear the rainbow jersey for the full year until the following UCI World Championships – but only when competing in the discipline, category and speciality for which they won it. For example, Men Elite road race UCI World Champion Mads Pedersen (Denmark) cannot wear his rainbow jersey in the individual time trial, which was won last year by Australian Rohan Dennis.

    Meanwhile former UCI World Champions have the privilege of displaying rainbow bands on the sleeves and on the collar of their team jersey, to recognise their past victory – again, only in the speciality in which it was won."

    https://www.uci.org/road/news/2020/the-history-and-the-records-of-road-s-rainbow-jersey

    Will try to see if I can see the clip on catchup

    Posted 2 years ago #
  16. SRD
    Moderator

    I did wonder if the rules had changed. figured someone on here would know? it's right at the start of the episode.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  17. gembo
    Member

    Alex Cole Hamilton to replace Willie Rennie?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  18. mga
    Member

    Rennie abandons in the Pyrenees! ACH more a man for the classics I would say.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  19. gembo
    Member

    ACH pro TdF today but anti-TdF tomorrow, dependent on wind direction.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  20. SRD
    Moderator

    Lachlan Morton arrived in Paris this morning.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

  22. gembo
    Member

    He did 500km in one day. Same as @bill

    Posted 2 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    Did he have rest days?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  24. gembo
    Member

    He did not. He had Rapha kit

    Posted 2 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

  26. chdot
    Admin

    17m ago 12:10

    Hello world!

    The rest of the Tour looks like this: three more Pyrenean stages, starting with today’s, of which the last two have mountain-top finishes and at least one hors-categorie climb. Then a long, sprinter-friendly rush from Mourenx to Libourne on Friday, a time trial to wine-growing hotspot Saint-Émilion on Saturday, and the final roll into Paris.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  27. SRD
    Moderator

    119km to go: They’ve gone at this pretty quickly: the Tour gives timings for each stage based on three possible speeds, and the fastest they envisaged would see them reach the top of the Col de Port at 2.46pm local/1.46pm GMT. I think they’re going to beat that by a couple of minutes. As a result a few riders are struggling, including Chris Froome who has just be dropped.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    14m ago 14:25

    80km to go: “Lots of riders have just stopped for a wee,” says Bradley Wiggins on EuroSport, who is on the back of a motorbike so he can brings us these on-the-ground insights.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  29. gembo
    Member

    Someone nearly Skelped a wall.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    2m ago 11:33

    166km to go: Rolland is still nearly 30sec clear. Behind him there’s a lot of jostling for position, but no actual use of the position that has been jostled for.

    Posted 2 years ago #

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