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(538 posts)- Started 3 years ago by Stickman
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He said: "My gut reaction is it is a bad proposal. I would rather hear a proposal to fix Sheriffhall Roundabout, I'd rather hear a proposal to get more trams out to this area to give us better public transport links and I'd rather see more investment in not-for-profit bus companies."
Well I have a proposal for where the money could come from for all that...
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Tory candidate for Portobello sticking rigidly to the script.
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Ah
So
‘Brunstane Road was closed because some people had their cars damaged by *traffic*’
‘But most people have been inconvenienced’
‘Disabled and elderly people need cars’
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Tory candidate for Portobello sticking rigidly to the script.
One of the few candidates whose address you can find on the notice of poll. Lives on a dead end road with parking on both sides, next to the Botanic Gardens...Posted 2 years ago # -
It's a premium article so I can't read it but I'm going to guess there is no mention of increased flooding, more frost damage, frequent road closures due to tree fall, landslip, etc.
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So... Just trying to follow the STV system.
I know the parties I want to vote for and end up having a Councillor for.
I also know the parties I don't want to have as a Councillor.
Do I still vote for the latter and put them after the former and if I do, do you put the "Wing Nuts" (referenced upthread - a good descriptor!) after the parties you want but before the ones you don't want?
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“after the parties you want but before the ones you don't want?“
Basically answered your own question.
Don’t HAVE TO put numbers next to anyone you don’t want to.
IF you number them all, makes sense to give ones you like least the highest number.
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If someone came up to you and said "it's down to X and Y for the last seat and you get to decide which" and you would genuinely reply "I don't care, toss a coin" then don't number them. If you'd sigh and say "fine, give it to X" then make sure you at least give X a preference.
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So
If there’s a candidate from a mainstream party you’d REALLY prefer wasn’t elected, then (you could) number them after all the ‘no hopers’.
If one of those gets elected -
A) that’s democracy
B) they are unlikely to end up in the ruling coalition(?!)
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@twinspark, for me the formulation "vote until you boak" suits best.
Others seem to think that picking say a Lib Dem over a Tory makes some kind of difference. Frankly, at local level, I beg to differ. A Lib Dem councillor cannot legalise weed, nor decide not to renew Trident. Similarly an SNP councillor cannot deliver a referendum on independence, and a Labour councillor cannot give you a refund on your energy bill. Fair enough if you have a good individual candidate, but remember they'll be subject to decisions of the party grouping if elected.
I am lucky to have some genuine choices available to me in this local election. I'm aware that in many wards, there are only candidates from the main Holyrood parties. In which case, it's a very tough decision!
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Of course, staying at home, writing ‘none of them’ on the ballot paper (or even the summary of your manifesto) are all options.
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@chdot Everyone should of course have the option of spoiling their ballot - that said, it'd be nice if everyone exercising that choice was required to sign a contract agreeing to keep their gob shut about politics at that level for the subsequent term of office, perhaps with exceptions for the tiny percentage of non-voters who do something else like volunteer with a charity or organise labour(in the non-party sense) instead.
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“that said, it'd be nice if everyone exercising that choice was required to sign a contract agreeing to keep their gob shut about politics at that level for the subsequent term of office“
Really?
I think it’s perfectly reasonable to register dissent against a list of people you/one (presumably) had nothing to do with ‘offering up for election’.
A dislike of a system and/or its rules shouldn’t mean you can’t talk about it!
For the record
I WILL be voting, with a number in every space.
I will decide the order of the last three with a pencil in my hand.
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A NEW poll suggests Douglas Ross is set to lead the Scottish Tories backwards in tomorrow’s local elections, as Labour moves up into second place.
On Monday, Mr Ross told the Herald he expected to come second behind the SNP despite controversy over Boris Johnson, partygate and the cost of living crisis.
“I’m really confident that we will maintain second place and we will have a really good result,” he said.
However a Savanta Comres survey for the Scotsman about Holyrood voting intentions found Tory support crumbling as Scottish Labour made gains under Anas Sarwar.
If the results are mirrored in Thursday’s council election - which is difficult to predict because of the STV voting system - it would be a major blow to Mr Ross.
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Premium article so no idea what Ian Swanson is thinking!
SNP and Greens to get enough seats for a majority without Labour?
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I'm sure everyone here is going to do so, but just in case, please do go and vote. As long as you are registered to vote you just need to pop along to your polling station. They are open until 10pm.
You don't need your polling card. If you don't know where your polling station is that's okay. Just click on this link to the Council website, pop in your postcode and it will tell you.
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@chdot: the article confirms the Green position of not entering any coalition or similar arrangement that would involve the Tories.
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> SNP and Greens to get enough seats for a majority without Labour?
This seems like the most likely majority government scenario given what Labour have said but national projections suggest little movement for the SNP. So either they would have to do particularly well in Edinburgh or the Greens would have to do extremely well (to a degree that a detailed analysis of the seats they'd have to win would probably indicate is impossible.) A good showing from both might clinch it though as they only need to gain 6 seats on last time.
Suspect the most likely outcomes are an SNP minority administration, a Labour minority administration if they have an extremely good showing, or an SNP-Green minority administration - but maybe only if Labour overtake the SNP and they need the extra seats ?
There is also the "Aberdeen option" where Labour ignore the national party and go back into coalition with the SNP anyway at the risk of a few years in the wilderness. I imagine there were a lot of sad Labour faces when the announcement was made as it probably dooms them to be out of the governing coalition for the first time in decades, so this shouldn't be ruled out. The Aberdeen councillors were re-admitted just before the election and their coalition was with the Tories, so a precedent for grumpy tolerance has certainly been set.
The "no change" option of an (inevitably stronger) Labour-SNP coalition would certainly be what my money was on if it wasn't for the anti-coalition edict.
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When do the results come out?
Are all of Edinburgh at once, or in ward order or just whenever?
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@jonty I think you radically underestimate how firmly unionism - whether full-throated and sincere or as a strategy - has taken hold of the SLab leadership. They readmitted the Aberdeen group because it was the Tories they partnered with, Sarwar is so heavily invested in "we're the NICE party of the Union" I can't see how he could tolerate any of the local groups "propping up Separatists" considering how much of an embarrassment the press and the Tories would turn it into for him, and the likely candidates to replace him if he goes in a couple of years are if anything even more strident.
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@HankChief: I seem to remember last time they were announced by around Friday lunchtime.
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@HankChief - "Just whenever", I'm fairly sure.
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Happened to be passing Liberton/Gilmerton and noticed the SNP are recommending putting Lesley Macinnes #2 and a new candidate #1. Seems a bit odd for an incumbent? Would be a real shame if she wasn't returned as a Cllr.
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@CycleAlex presumably LMac will be recommended #1 elsewhere in the ward, trying to balance the first preferences which is important in order to get multiple candidates elected. Worked well for the SNP there last time, less well in other wards and for other parties.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_City_of_Edinburgh_Council_election#Liberton/Gilmerton
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“Seems a bit odd for an incumbent?“
There is obviously some risk in the strategy.
Presume not too many voting for HER in spite of the fact she’s in the SNP.
So, the idea (presumably) is to remind voters that there are two SNP candidates. I wouldn’t be surprised if other polling stations are recommending the other way round.
In any ward with two candidates for one party, I assume the ‘second’ candidate has more chance of being elected if they get a reasonable number of 1st preferences(?)
(Calculations further complicated depending if there are 3 or 4 seats.)
EDIT: See last post!
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