Petition RE Rosyth ferry
https://www.thenational.scot/news/23781747.scotland-europe-ferry-petition-signed-thousands/
CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Cycling News
Ferry latest
(92 posts)-
Posted 1 year ago #
-
“
MINISTERS have been warned of legal issues around a radical plan to scrap Scottish Government-controlled vessel and harbour owners CMAL to form one ferry organisation.
It has emerged that consultants EY (Ernst and Young), the authors of an analysis over the future of the beleaguered west coast ferry operation have confirmed in an evaluation that there were a "significant number of legal issues" that may prevent its delivery.
“
Herald
Posted 1 year ago # -
“
Scottish Government failure to fund international ferry links revealed
“
Herald
Posted 1 year ago # -
“
New ScotGov moves to sanction tracing of 'lost' £128m ferry money
“
Herald
Posted 1 year ago # -
“
He told The National that “considerable progress” had been made and that the target date for introducing the route – three return sailings per week from Rosyth to the French port of Dunkirk – remained May 2024.
But those plans have now been scrapped, with ferry operator DFDS saying that May, or even summer 2024, is “no longer feasible” due to a lack of “commitment” from the Scottish and UK Government to back the route.
“[This] makes our business case for the route less viable,” the Danish company added in an email to other stakeholders.
“
https://www.thenational.scot/news/24068906.scotland-europe-ferry-plans-reintroduce-service-ditched/
Dunkirk?
Posted 1 year ago # -
“
Fife ferry link to Europe at risk for sake of less than £10m start-up cost
“
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/politics/scottish-politics/4878437/rosyth-dunkirk-ferry-cost/
Posted 1 year ago # -
Pretty sure that ferry route would be viable without government intervention if they had proper road tolls on UK motorways, just like they do in all civilised continental nations.
Instead we give the road haulage industry a free planet-wrecking pass
Posted 1 year ago # -
Wonder if Labour in Scotland will bring support for a direct EU route forward? Think it was Sarah Boyack that argued for original Rosyth link as the then A1 had too much traffic and Labour in 90s felt that goods should go by rail or directly by ship to Europe.
Words 'climate change' and 'green' were not used much then. Just cost savings on road delays and accidents.Scotland of course already has a port to the EU at Cairnryan. This year they expect delays with labelling to reflect NI's EUUK unique status.
Since last October, meat and dairy goods going to Northern Ireland from Great Britain have needed “not for EU” labels as part of the Windsor Framework of post-Brexit trade rules.
You couldn't make it up!
Posted 1 year ago # -
“
Glen Sannox sea trials: Ferry travels far further than expected on first day under its own power. @TheScotsman
“
https://twitter.com/alastairdalton/status/1757428868175077664?
Posted 1 year ago # -
“
So, despite being delayed for years, nobody seems to have realised the seriousness of the situation and ensured the port was upgraded, which probably sums up perfectly the utter shambles of the whole exercise and highlights the utter complacency of Transport Scotland and ministers.
“
Posted 1 year ago # -
Interesting that someone has spotted NOT FOR SALE IN EU on Sainsbury bacon pack - I suspect this is for stock which may be landing in the 6 Counties (75% of Ulster), or to assist checks on shipments
I've also spotted the same Polish registerd tractor with a DFDS liveried reefer trailer, and operated by a Dutch haulier doing roadside transfers of what seems to be frozen chicken pieces to smaller vans just beside the M8 near Charing Cross
We do live in interesting times
A note that Kintyre Express (Owned by Colin Craig of West Coast Motors - now using Craigs of Campbeltown as their registered details for WC Motors & Glasgow Citybus - perhaps not Borders Buses/Perrymans though?) has 12 passenger RIB's available which operate a summer ferry service Islay/Campbeltown to Ballycastle but are also chartered for Troon-Campbeltown, which cuts journey from Glasgow down to around 2 hours
Posted 1 year ago # -
"Interesting that someone has spotted NOT FOR SALE IN EU on Sainsbury bacon pack"
Dunno about the bacon as we hardy ever buy it, but I've seen it on the labels of their packs of Drury Lane ham for a few months at least. I suspect you're correct about the reason behind it.
Posted 1 year ago # -
My retired international freight forwarder contact, advises that this has been a requirement since October 2023 to deal with Schroedingers 'Province' (AKA 6 Counties/75% Ulster) where various produce might leak over the 'Border-Not a Border'/ 'Bipolar Border' or whatever might exist in perhaps the only place in the UK where you can pay for most things in £ or € and no one bats an eye....
Posted 1 year ago # -
“
Today in @scotonsunday: Why passengers finally travelling aboard the hugely-late ferry Glen Sannox from tomorrow will see journey times increase by a third because of a delayed harbour upgrade - started even before the ferry was ordered
https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/glen-sannox-ardrossan-troon-peel-ports-calmac-4936837
“
Posted 2 months ago # -
Peel Ports well known for having deep pockets and short arms.
Posted 2 months ago # -
Glen Sannox did surprise inaugural trip today as MV Alfred catemeran wasn't used.
High winds forecast tomorrow may have ferry cancellations.Yes - is a pain that Ardrossan not ready as it allows 5 journeys a day versus 3.
Islanders also point out that it's possible to easily do round trip to Glasgow without a car due to easy train access.Posted 2 months ago # -
@laidbck there is also a shuttle bus from Troon Harbour to Troon Train station
Posted 2 months ago # -
“
Perhaps unsurprisingly, there were no government ministers present - just a plaque above a staircase marking a notorious episode in the ship’s past involving a former first minister - and no sign of anyone from shipbuilders Ferguson Marine either.
“
https://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/glen-sannox-calmac-first-sailing-troon-brodick-arran-4940922
Posted 2 months ago # -
“
But the Ardrossan harbour debacle has been described as big a farce as there have been issues over how the cost – which in 2022 was estimated at £40m – would be divided between the Scottish Government quango Transport Scotland, the harbour owner Peel Ports and North Ayrshire Council.And the costs of the project to upgrade Ardrossan is understood to have doubled.
Business minister Ivan McKee insisted in September 2022 that the harbour and port infrastructure at Ardrossan would be ready to take the two lifeline ferries when they finally set sail after being built at the nationalised Ferguson Marine shipyard in Inverclyde.
CMAL believes the talks to revive the Ardrossan plan were "in the middle of nowhere".
“
Herald
Posted 2 months ago # -
It doesn't make sense to duplicate the Newcastle to Ijmuiden (Amsterdam) route with another longer route.
20 hours on a ferry would only make sense for truckers with limited driving hours. Especially when as a passenger you can take the train to Paris, Amsterdam or Brussels in around 9 hours.
It would be far better to have a Rosyth to Norway or Sweden route, which cuts off a huge journey by train
Posted 3 weeks ago # -
“
AN Australian ferry that has been docked in Edinburgh for three months is to be moved back to the other side of the world after leasing negotiations broke down.
Often described as a "fiasco", the Spirit of Tasmania IV has been docked in Leith since early December due to issues with existing infrastructure in the Tasmanian city of Devonport.
“
Posted 3 weeks ago # -
Always reassuring to see that hardy perennial, the "soon to be announced Scotland-Europe ferry service" make its annual appearance. A particularly early "we just need a few million quid to make this work", plus the surprise addition of Dunkirk makes this something of a classic year.
Posted 3 weeks ago # -
Just trying to uncynically imagine passing twenty hours on a ferry with our two kids. Jings.
Posted 3 weeks ago # -
When I was little, the only way we could get off the island* for summer holidays was an 18 hour overnight ferry ride. Definitely mixed memories...
[Newfoundland - east coast; yes, there is a shorter ferry from the west coast, but that required 14 hours or so driving]
Posted 3 weeks ago # -
Having spent some time on ferries both as a kid and a parent it doesn't fill me with dread. It very much depends on personalities and quality of ferry though.
The biggest issue here is the 3 services per week. That means it very unlikely to be suitable for travelling during the weekend, or ideally after work on a Friday.
I always wanted to travel on the zebrugge route but the only time I managed was after the Icelandic volcano ash.
Posted 3 weeks ago #
Reply »
You must log in to post.
posts
