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Whitehouse Road cyclist down

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  • Started 4 months ago by stiltskin
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  1. stiltskin
    Member

    My wife has just texted me to say she’s heard a cyclist has been killed in an RTA on Whitehouse Road. Hope it isn’t true, but if it is, thoughts are for all those involved.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    Whitehouse Road is likely to remain closed for some time following a road traffic collision near Braehead Road.

    Alternative routes are busy with roadworks on Main Street at Corbiehill Road and Queensferry Road at Marchfield adding to delays in the area.

    https://x.com/edintravel/status/1763511261805830312

    Posted 4 months ago #
  3. edinburgh87
    Member

    Hopefully not but as usual any reporting is framed more about the inconvenience to traffic than providing any substantive information.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  4. Kim
    Member

    Not again. Why does safety always come second to motorists convenience?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  5. edinburgh87
    Member

  6. acsimpson
    Member

    I'm not going to share details that I have heard as I don't have a source but suffice to say that it's a tragedy that should never happened.
    Every single group in this city who has campaigned against cycle lanes has blood on their hands. Especially those in Alex Cole-Hamilton's constituency. Whitehouse Road is wide and large sections have almost no on street parking. It would be very simple for it to have segregated lanes branching off route 1, but so much energy has been spent elsewhere in the city that the council simply cannot move fast enough to keep us safe.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  7. toomanybikes
    Member

    Impossible to claim there's not room for segregated cycle lanes at that section
    google maps spot from behind where truck is photographed

    Posted 4 months ago #
  8. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Dreadful news if true. NWH tipper involved - what a surprise

    Posted 4 months ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    BREAKING: An Eleven year old boy has died after being hit by a bin lorry in Edinburgh whilst riding a bicycle. The incident happened around 8.20 on Whitehouse Road, near Cramond.

    https://x.com/forth1news/status/1763579078777376852

    Posted 4 months ago #
  10. edinburgh87
    Member

    Truly awful. And doesn’t surprise me about NWH. Not their first or last incident and going by the driving I see from them (have the misfortune to be Midlothian based and see them regularly on the A7)

    Posted 4 months ago #
  11. edinburgh87
    Member

    Statement on Police Scotland fb page.

    Includes the usual “The driver of the (xx) was un injured”. As if the other party’s situation is remotely comparable.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  12. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    “ have the misfortune to be Midlothian based and see them regularly on the A7”

    Yes, their ganghut is in the same industrial estate as Ryze trampoline centre

    Posted 4 months ago #
  13. Stickman
    Member

    First version of Cole-Hamilton’s tweet about this. He’s deleted it and removed the reference to his kids/year group.

    This is desperately sad news. My kids go to the same school as this poor boy, one of them in his year group. My heart is with our @Royal_High_Sch community today and my thoughts and prayers go to this boy’s family and everyone who loved him.

    New version:

    Desperately sad news which has rocked the local community, West Edinburgh hearts go out to this boy’s family and those who loved him.

    https://twitter.com/agcolehamilton/status/1763593248939917430

    Posted 4 months ago #
  14. Frenchy
    Member

    Devastating.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    This is truly awful news, my thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of the boy whose life has been tragically cut short. The circumstances are not yet fully known, but we should not view deaths on our roads as either inevitable or acceptable.

    https://twitter.com/cllrscottarthur/status/1763583204135432390

    Posted 4 months ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    We need to ensure this terrible incident is investigated fully by the police and by other authorities. It is critical that action is taken to understand what happened, and that steps are taken quickly to try and prevent such a terrible thing like this happening again. 3/3

    https://twitter.com/kevin_lang/status/1763578271055126884

    Posted 4 months ago #
  17. LivM
    Member

    If every bin lorry and skip lorry and other similar sized heavy trucks were limited to 10mph in the city I would not be sad. Even if I were stuck behind one for my entire journey.

    They (their drivers) go flying down the road past my son's school and even if they're at 20mph (which I doubt) the kinetic energy is terrifying.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  18. Kim
    Member

    Stop de Kindermoord!!!

    Of course, there are Cllrs who are more worried that their bus might be delayed than the lives of children

    Posted 4 months ago #
  19. Dave
    Member

    The liberal democrats have fought tooth and nail to remove existing cycle safety infrastructure and block new safety infrastructure going in. Some of their election material was literally promoting the removal of safety measures outside a busy school.

    Hopefully this killing gives some of them a sleepless night, but you can't help wonder if they won't turn it to their advantage

    Posted 4 months ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    “but you can't help wonder if they won't turn it to their advantage“

    Yes

    But to do that they’d actually have to ‘think different’.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  21. mcairney
    Member

    This is horrific :( Thoughts with the family and friends of the victim

    Posted 4 months ago #
  22. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Cllr Lang is absolutely right, technically speaking, but from him they are empty words that deserve a one-word reply that would otherwise require me to moderate myself.

    Nothing substantial was ever done following Zhi Min Soh's death. It will be seven years at the end of this May.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  23. acsimpson
    Member

    "It is critical that action is taken to understand what happened"

    Cllr Lang knows as well as anyone that this was partially caused by Lib Dem and their fellow motorists putting huge amounts of effort into ensuring safe cycle infrastructure isn't built in the west of the city.

    Ur isn't hard to work out what we need to do to prevent such tragedies. The Dutch have been doing it for 50 years.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    This is truly awful news, my thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of the boy whose life has been tragically cut short.

    The circumstances are not yet fully known, but we should not view deaths on our roads as either inevitable or acceptable.

    https://x.com/cllrscottarthur/status/1763583204135432390?

    I’m sure he feels/means it.

    Whether he ‘reaches out’ to the LibDems or condemns them in any way remains to be seen.

    The simple facts are - too many vehicles and an obsession with traffic flow.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    Helen Donaldson, head teacher at Cramond Primary School, said: “We are utterly devastated by the tragic news of the sudden death of one our pupils. Our thoughts are with his family and friends during this incredibly difficult time.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20240301195945/https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/edinburgh-head-teacher-leads-tributes-to-kind-pupil-after-11-year-old-is-killed-in-crash-with-bin-lorry-4540201

    Posted 4 months ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    The 11-year-old boy who died after being struck by a bin lorry on Whitehouse Loan on Fri 1 March has been named as Thomas Wong from the city. His family has asked for privacy. Enquiries are continuing to establish the full circumstances.
    More: http://ow.ly/sCCp50QKqgJ

    https://x.com/psosedinburgh/status/1764296743783383299

    Posted 4 months ago #
  27. gembo
    Member

    What is to be done?
    This cannot go on

    Mr Hart has a manifesto we should get right behind.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  28. Arellcat
    Moderator

    What is to be done? We could start with strongly worded commitments, we could then contract for traffic flow monitoring exercises, then engage consultants for road redesign, and after six months of desk work, arrange public consultations and online submissions for wider opinion and data gathering; it might also be good to develop a target in respect of committing to a comprehensive update of an action plan on road safety and road danger, and we can seek to promote more strongly the need for lights on bikes. The target will be viewed as 'courageous', then missed and reframed as a good practice objective within AT policies, which will be deprioritised because of changes in roles and loss of corporate knowledge within CEC, reframed again as a recommended action within a wider package of road related activities, then postponed because of budgetary constraints and the age of the original data set.

    In other words, invest hundreds of hours of time and energy and tens of thousands of Pounds, producing nothing of any real value in a timescale that is remotely reasonable.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  29. neddie
    Member

    ...then we could row back a semi low traffic neighbourhood that has already reduced traffic by 40%

    Posted 4 months ago #
  30. gembo
    Member

    Ok but I think MR hart has an actual manifesto we should get behind

    Posted 4 months ago #

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