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French revolutions

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  • Started 1 month ago by Morningsider
  • Latest reply from LaidBack

  1. Morningsider
    Member

    Recently back from summer holidays in northern France, visiting (and cycling in) Paris, Rennes, and St Malo.

    I am sure most of you will have heard about the near miraculous work on cycle infrastructure and growth of cycling in Paris in recent years. Well, there are lots of cyclists and quite a bit of infrastructure, but cycling in central Paris is the closest I have ever come to playing real life Frogger. Certainly not for the faint of heart, or any cyclist minded to stop at a red light.

    Rennes was a real delight - half the size of Edinburgh, a two line underground! Lots of cycle infrastructure, a largely pedestrianised city centre, public e-bike hire, high frequency buses and an amazing rail/bus/cycle station in the centre of town. Also, seems to be home to almost every remaining 1980s Peugeot road bike still in existance.

    St Malo also had what appeared to be a rapidly expanding network of cycle lanes, plus a public e-bike hire scheme.

    What really impressed me about all three places is their attitude to rolling out infrastructure. It clearly happens at pace and at scale, generally using low cost approaches. "We" would probably consider some of it a bit rubbish - much shared use, sometimes a bit narrow, route finding sometimes a bit tricky. However, it is there, there is a network, and there seems to be an attitude of live and let live amongst users. No obvious "concerns" about using bus stop bypasses, or sticking to rigid (and gold plated) design standards.

    In all three places the facilities were years ahead of Edinburgh. If anything, Rennes should be the template for what Edinburgh could achieve rather than Paris - the scale of pedestrianisation (bikes largely allowed too) is quite something.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  2. LaidBack
    Member

    @morningsider Good to know Paris and Bretagne are spending (or saving) money wisely.
    Fond memories of taking several family holidays around St Malo. Traffic around ferry hectic at that time with only hinted at 'pistes cyclable' on way out to Le Viuex Chêne 'camping' where we took bikes as a base for a week or so.
    Think France though had always been so positive about cycling that you always felt safer or at least welcome.
    It's a great choice for a family holiday as wasn't too hot (back then at least!).
    Of course now the rental bike schemes will have made the whole vibe in cities different. Rennes has two metro lines you say...? Amazing to think that wealthier Edinburgh only has one tramway (or half at moment) with a second maybe appearing later this century or never. Voi bikes at least can let people cross city which is jam!!ed up with diverted buses.

    On a side note I hear that Barcelona is cancelling all five of it's private bike hire schemes and replacing it with one council run one. Apparently too many of the rental bikes are used by tourists and not enough by locals (!). Very odd thing to measure though. Tourists also use public transport and roadspace in all 'destination' cities.
    Hopefully France won't follow.

    Posted 1 month ago #

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