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Art Deco Architecture in Edinburgh (Help Needed)

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  • Started 13 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
  • Latest reply from chdot

  1. chdot
    Admin

    @Wingpig tanks for finding previous thread.

    In true CCE fashion it went off-track in the middle and discussed bartape!

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  2. Photos this morning of the Causewayside Garage, and Forbes Road building (which was a last minute decision, and seriously, how many drivers would do this kind of thing of a morning? - to continue the discussion on being able to stop places by bike).

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  3. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Well that place is a missed opportunity if ever there was one

    It could make a super trendy wine and seafood bar. Or a Brewers Fayre (actually, there's one of them already, behind Loch Fyne restaurant)

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  4. chdot
    Admin

    "how many drivers would do this kind of thing of a morning?"

    Well you're sort of answering your own question. You can answer completely by thinking about whether YOU would have done if you'd been driving this morning...

    Straying into areas I know little about - I wonder if any research has been done into 'cyclists' brains'.

    I think there have been studies of taxidrivers and the way that doing The Knowledge has 'rewired' their brains.

    Presumably this is a good thing and comes from learning details of the road network and where things are, and (presumably) using this stored info to calculate routes.

    New thread anyone?

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  5. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Former Alfa Romeo showroom on Angle Park Terrace. Not sure I approve of the grey paint. White to my mind is the Art Deco colour of choice.

    Number 4 Blackford Road "The Afshar House". Appearances can be decieving though, that one's as recent as 2002.

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  6. wingpig
    Member

    Lochend Quadrant or 145 Restalrig Road?

    Enlargement of the hippocampus. I've seen some interesting videos demonstrating how rats and mice with their hippocampuses disconnected bimble randomly around failing to find things whose location they previously knew.

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  7. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Number 4 Blackford Road "The Afshar House". Appearances can be decieving though, that one's as recent as 2002.
    "

    I don't think anyone would confuse it with an 'original'.

    In spite of all previous comments about AD being a 'general style' I think this one is best described as pastiche.

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  8. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Straying into areas I know little about

    Cyclists are like dogs following an interesting smell. To the casual observer they may look like they are wanering aimlessly, without destination, but they are actually homing in on a treat - after the faintest whiff of a clue they are finding the best way to what it is that they want and where it is they want to get by a process of trial, error and elimination.

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  9. Arellcat
    Moderator

    WP has an interesting timeline of architectural styles. Obviously some post-modern building might reasonably be confused for the real thing, and sometimes it's debateable, just by inspection, to tell whether something was built in the AD/SM style or borrowed elements from it.

    Egyptian Revival is basically proto-AD where all the angles are wrong.
    Googie is where all the windows have rounded corners and everything else is spiky and turbine-shaped.
    Brutalist is grey and without any harmonious curves.

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  10. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Brutalist is grey and without any harmonious curves.

    I could be wrong, because I'm no student of architecture, but I think one of the defining features of Brutalism is buildings are often "inside out", with the supporting structure (such as concrete beams) left visible on the exterior of the building, rather than hidden away behind a decorative facade. The term "brutalist" coming from the French for raw concrete (some people might argue it's because the buildings often just appear "brutal" in their surroundings a la St. James Centre...) Personally I think some of them are fabulous pieces of design and architecture. The Barbican Centre inside and out is one of my favourite.

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  11. SRD
    Moderator

    arellcat - thanks for that. some fascinating reading there. an interesting blend of design and planning too. I had no idea that Heliopolis was considered to have it own style.

    followed various links (something called streamlines which actually looks a lot like Bar Zilli etc) and came across this blog http://artdecobuildings.blogspot.com/ no Edinburgh entries though!

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  12. "The Barbican Centre inside and out is one of my favourite."

    You'd love the Pompidou Centre in Paris (when I was trying to remember the name the first that sprung to mind was 'Poulidor' - damned cyclist brain never switches off...)

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  13. kaputnik
    Moderator

    19 Market Street - hints of classic Georgian Edinburgh style with Art Deco overtones. I do like the engraved "1928" about the door.

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  14. No blue sky today, but a couple more grabbed...


    Causewayside Garage Left by blackpuddinonnabike, on Flickr


    Causewayside Garage Out by blackpuddinonnabike, on Flickr


    Causewayside Garage Sign by blackpuddinonnabike, on Flickr


    Forbes Road Corner by blackpuddinonnabike, on Flickr


    Forbes Road Windows by blackpuddinonnabike, on Flickr

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  15. Arellcat
    Moderator

    It's a small world. I've just been poking around on Jack Deighton's blog, and in that typical six-degrees-of-interconnectedness of the internet discovered that Basil Spence designed not only our very own Southside (now Causewayside) Garage but Lismhor as well.

    And in other news, apparently today the Fairmile Inn was put up for sale. Back in March the Fairmilehead Community Council minuted:

    "There was a possibility that the Fairmile Inn may be being sold. The planning permission which was originally in force for flats had expired so any new development would require to be started from the beginning. It would not be for retail use."

    According to Seagull, it was originally called the Hillburn Roadhouse. I never knew that.

    Perhaps an Art Deco mtb/TT/roadie base with CCE branding is the way forwards.

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  16. chdot
    Admin

    And a lot more -

    http://www.basilspence.org.uk/living/buildings/canongate

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  17. kaputnik
    Moderator

    There was an excellent Spence exhibition at the Modern Art Gallery a few years back. I missed the Gillespie, Kidd and Coia one though that was on around the same time in Glasgow I think.

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  18. chdot
    Admin

    Also -


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  19. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Another long-gone one would be the 1936 pithead baths, canteen and administrative block at Fleets Colliery just outside Tranent.

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  20. bruce_mcadam
    Member

    The Toothbox dentist on Gilmerton Road is in a little art deco building.

    google streetview link

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  21. tarmac jockey
    Member

    There is a white art deco house on the junction of Comiston Road/Comiston Springs Avenue. It has an ornate sundail on the wall facing on to Comiston Road. http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Commiston+road+edinburgh&hl=en&ll=55.912136,-3.213603&spn=0.000658,0.001663&safe=active&t=h&z=19

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  22. kaputnik
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  23. Arellcat
    Moderator

    There is a white art deco house on the junction of Comiston Road/Comiston Springs Avenue...

    Hunters Moon. It was built in the 1930s, and is on the market for a bit under a million. More pics on Right Move. When I get home I'll dig out my copy of Historic South Edinburgh and see if it's mentioned.

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  24. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Found a vintage photograph of the Roxy Cinema, with tram rails and cobbles being the order of the day:

    (compare with now)

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  25. Morningsider
    Member

    arellcat - great photo!

    Local legend has it that "Hunters Moon" was the name of a race horse that helped make the fortune of the original owner of that house.

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  26. I took a spin by the Clerk Street Odeon this morning.

    "Built as New Victoria Cinema, executed by John Herdan. Prior to alteration for cinemascope the proscenium arch had splays of six disengaged columns. An outstanding example of the work of the most famous British cinema specialists."

    Such a shame to see it in such a dilapidated current state.

    THIS was planned in its place apparently:

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  27. wingpig
    Member

    I miss the brown-carpeted ceiling of screen 1.

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  28. Stepdoh
    Member

    Both Odeons have come a bit of a cropper. I loved the main screen at the lothian road one, it was huge, and how far you had to trek to get to the other screens in clerk street, and the star roof.

    They were both just classy.

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  29. Wow! Great site here about Scottish Cinemas old and new: clicky

    Check out the 'demolished' list!

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  30. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Central Hall on Tollcross showed films for children on Saturday mornings, into the 1950s. I don't think it was ever a cinema in the evening-goers sense. The winding gear for the screen is still in place in the roof space above the auditorium ceiling, as the screen was suspended on ropes in front of the organ, and was winched up into the arch space. The projection room is still in place, too, with two little ports in the back wall of the auditorium for the projector and projectionist to look through.

    There's a house on Biggar Road, just up from the Fairmile Inn, with lovely curved windows in the accepted style. It's a bit hard to make them out on streetview, but easy in person.

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