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Try-a-bike?

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  1. Roibeard
    Member

    Would folk be interested in some sort of try-a-bike event?

    It is likely that folk on the forum have "enthusiasts'" bicycles, either unusual or simply more expensive than the norm. Hiring these sorts of bikes may not be possible and dealers may not welcome cheeky "test rides", even if the bike is stocked!

    Even considering more "ordinary" bikes, I've never ridden a recumbent, or a Brompton, and I may not be alone in only having ridden what was available or what fitted the planned purchase spec.

    Trying bikes for the cycle to work scheme was great fun, even with a tight spec - I rode a Ridgeback Flight 2, a Dawes Discover 601, Kona's Dew Drop, Dew Deluxe and Jake, a Genesis Croix-de-Fer and the Norco Indie 2, on which I settled.

    I'd have liked to try a Kona Sutra or a Trek Portland but both were a bit out of spec in at least one way and a few others weren't in stock (Giant & Cannondale equivalents, etc).

    I suspect many, myself included, would be happy to have a free ride on something different, that couldn't be afforded, wouldn't be used enough, would take up too much space, would be too similar to an existing bike, or would simply exceed the bike quota.

    So rather than, "who wants a ride?", the question is "who would be prepared to offer a ride?"

    Would you be prepared to participate in an internet date where a stranger rides your pride and joy?

    I'm being deliberately provocative, but perhaps any perceived risk could be reduced by making it a bit of a group cycle where we swap steeds every so often, rather than letting Johnny Tealeaf simply hop on to your bike and cycle off into the sunset leaving you standing on the pavement…

    Clearly it wouldn't suit any who have spent hours adjusting their seat post/handlebars to be perfect!

    I also don't think the risk of accidental damage can be mitigated much, and that might understandably rule out some.

    What do you think?

    Robert

    Admins - if this should be in Debate rather than Events, feel free to move it!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. LaidBack
    Member

    I'm happy to do something but don't expect a rush. I've offered loans of bikes, trikes and tandems for review before but people just don't have the time.

    Last year Min won a golden bollard award for her excellent 'Safe Routes for Swans' initiative - now in the committee stage at Holyrood so I hear.

    The winner had a shot on an LB demo tandem. Runners up got an old dog eared Velo Vision magazine.

    On a side note LB has been asked to get some interesting items out to East Fortune.

    East Fortune Event

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Laidback, I gave a man at work who cycles your details as he's looking to hire "something amusing" to do the pedal4scotland event on. For whatever reason, your business card jumped right into my brain at that point.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    ""something amusing" to do the pedal4scotland event on"

    Single speed Paper Bike should sort that...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. Arellcat
    Moderator

    I also don't think the risk of accidental damage can be mitigated much, and that might understandably rule out some.

    This is kinda the reason why recumbent bike riders quite often shy away from giving test rides, because the learning curve is distinct and the risk of the bike being dropped is non-zero. Recumbent trikes, though, can be ridden more or less straight away.

    For my work's Cycle To Work scheme I tried out various shapes and styles of Brompton at Kinetics and Biketrax before deciding on a M-type, and then later changing my mind and buying a S-type instead.

    I've seen some instances (in a land far, far away) where a bike shop charges for test rides. Not just "give us your name and address, and we'll hold onto your credit card thanks", but actually charging for the pleasure. Fine line between justifying the cost of having a demo fleet to turn potential customers into happy customers, and turning away potential customers.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. LaidBack
    Member

    Steveo liked it. Should have gears by then.

    Yes - LB aka "Funny Bikes"

    Ha, ••••• ha

    You'll all be laughing on the other side of your faces when the Safe Route for Swans Intitiative is up and running with Laid Back Bikes and the Scottish Government Logos side by side! RBS are wanting in on the action too.

    Then the festival comes and no-one takes me seriously....

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Yes Laidback, it is nearly festival time, have you got a cyclable piano in your fleet yet?

    Posted 12 years ago #
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    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    "
    So rather than, "who wants a ride?", the question is "who would be prepared to offer a ride?"

    Would you be prepared to participate in an internet date where a stranger rides your pride and joy?
    "
    I think if there is a time and place people could turn up and 'swap'. Enough people know enough of the other forum members for there to be not too many 'strangers' turning up with junk bikes hoping to get a 'new bike'!

    And I know all user names and e-mails...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. Roibeard
    Member

    @LaidBack I'm happy to do something but don't expect a rush.

    Thanks LaidBack, yet I know you're one of the places that does indeed hire more unusual (I hesitate to say "funny"!) bikes, and I wouldn't wish to undermine part of your living!

    Perhaps it does need the "what's in it for me?" factor for owners, so dealers may be more able to participate given that there's a chance of a future sale.

    Would you be prepared to participate in an internet date where a stranger rides your pride and joy?

    As the photos above show, I'm mad enough to let a strange man propel me through the Meadows - Hi Dave! *waves*

    Check out the grins - I wasn't planning to buy a tandem, never mind a Pino, but rode it and bought it purely on the grin factor!

    Robert

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. BenKinetics
    Member

    Fantastic, good to see the Pino being used :)

    About hiring / test rides: I've been doing this for about 15 years, and unfortunately I've found that having bikes for test rides at events (even specialist bike events) is pretty much a waste of time. At best, the time, effort and breakages that result are just about made up for by a sale or two, but generally the people who try and buy are people who would have travelled to the shop to try anyway, tehy've just taken the opportunity to try at the event.

    In other words, they would have come to me to try a bike anyway.

    It's sad to have to be so commercial about it, but basically I can't afford to have demo bikes for the fun of it, they need to pay their way.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. DaveC
    Member

    Well I'm up for this. We could do it somewhere nice flat, and a cafe/pub at one end. Cramond springs to mind. I only have a Dawes Galaxy and a Specialzed Rockhopper, but I'm willing to bring one of them along. Alternatively a longer ride where we ride together there and back swapping occationally might suit. Would have to be a weekend though, and I might have to bring my trailer and one of me wee boys.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. Roibeard
    Member

    <bump!>

    @Dave C - Grand, how about a bit of family get together then? Cramond sounds fine - a Saturday would be ideal, as it's 8 miles from home...

    How about 27th August? Say, 11:30 or so? We could aim for a picnic lunch perhaps.

    I'll bring the kids, so that means a selection of Islabike Beinns (20" small, 24", 26" small, if they all come) and probably the Pino. Other forumers with kids might be interested in seeing these in the metal too.

    Where do you suggest we meet? I'm not so familiar with that part of town.

    Of course, the invite extends to others without kids too!

    Robert

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. DaveC
    Member

    There is one pub I know of and one cafe on the river side. There is usually an ice cream van no the end tto. Alternatievly we could have picnic on the grass a km west of the Cramond village on the grass or beach depending on tides.

    I can see your children becoming a little jealous if you lend their bikes out tot other children.

    Dave C

    Posted 12 years ago #
  15. Roibeard
    Member

    <grin>

    I think they should be fine, although there's always a risk that it might be "look, but don't touch"!

    So how about 11:30, Saturday 27th August at the start of the Cramond causeway? That's a landmark I'm pretty sure I can find...

    Robert

    Posted 12 years ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

  17. DaveC
    Member

    Cheers chdot, so at least I know we'll not be making the walk out to the Island on that day.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  18. LaidBack
    Member

    That would be great except I've been booked to do an event in Stirling. Cramond sounds a perfect idea too and would be less hassle but....

    Emily at 'Going Carbon Neutral Stirling' is inviting people for their Big Bike Fun Day over and I'm letting people play on a trike and a tandem as I did at SECC and Scotland Outdoors events. May take a bike too.

    These 'gigs' really only cover their costs and I may have ot use a lift to get to the carbon neutral event (Bikes on train are ok but the trike even folded might annoy Scotrail)

    Other option is for CC to got to Stirling - event is only from 12 - 4 and they got 700 people last year. is beside Stirling station.

    Cycling Stirling


    Posted 12 years ago #
  19. Roibeard
    Member

    @Laidback - I'd been taking Ben's comments to heart and didn't want to press you.

    Looks like you've got a busy few weeks ahead anyway heading to Stirling and then East Fortune.

    Just popped over to the Cycle Stirling website - they've even got loan/trial cargo bikes! Or rather Keep Scotland Beautiful have them available for a month at a time in return for promising to use and look after it.

    http://www.cyclestirling.org.uk/page/cargo-bikes

    http://www.laid-back-bikes.co.uk/page1/page1.html

    Perhaps we should instead organise a forum-only Laidback tour, looks like we could have quite a bit of fun for a day sometime! No doubt it would be 17 quid well spent...

    Robert

    Posted 12 years ago #
  20. SRD
    Moderator

    We'll be back by the 27th, and would be very keen to try the Isla bikes (I had actually posted a while back asking if anyone on the forum had one we could try!!! - before Roibeard joined I guess).

    Happy to let anyone try tandem, tagalong, trailer, various seats....

    Posted 12 years ago #
  21. DaveC
    Member

    I may have to break the meeting as at the moment this is when my lease ends and I have to hand over my house on this day. I'll see when my landlord arrives though as he's getting a bus from London (he must be daft - I'd get the train).

    Cheers,

    Dave C

    Posted 12 years ago #
  22. Roibeard
    Member

    @SRD - May I place a vote for the Helios please? Although the Pino can be fitted out with kiddie cranks, they cost ~£250!

    I don't think we'll be opting for that, and will consider the Pino to be primarily Mummy and Daddy's toy...

    Robert

    Posted 12 years ago #
  23. SRD
    Moderator

    @roibeard - absolutely!

    My stoker has been campaigning for a recumbent tandem - she'll be disappointed to be told that its too big for her.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  24. Roibeard
    Member

    My stoker has been campaigning for a recumbent tandem - she'll be disappointed to be told that its too big for her.

    It somewhat depends, my 11 year old daughter is almost long enough in the leg to manage it and can contribute usefully even if at the "bottom" of the stoke she's only just on the pedal.

    For the younger ones, it's been assumed to be a child seat without a belt and although they're not helping, it's no worse than a trailer, I'd suppose.

    Robert

    Posted 12 years ago #
  25. Roibeard
    Member

    <bump>

    This has rolled round and is now this coming Saturday!

    Forecast today is for light showers, so we might just remain dry...

    @Dave C - I know the day's not perfect for you, do you know your landlord's movements?

    Robert

    Posted 12 years ago #
  26. DaveC
    Member

    Well I'm told he's getting the bus up from London so I guess it'll be mid morning? Plus I'm sure we'll have a few final bits to move that morning, but I'm planning to complete everything this week in the evenings.

    If I can make it I will even if I'm only on my own.

    ***************************

    Calling all others, we could use this as a social meetup too. I figure we could meet at the end of the road/prom/path to Cramond Island here:

    http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=55.98012414550221~-3.3002949009446802&lvl=17&dir=0&sty=s&sp=Point.t9c74vgtsqcg_Greenends%20Gully____~Point.tbcg3zgq95b9_Dunfermline%255falloa%20path____~Point.t9x0jqgqrgb2_CCE%20Meetup.____~Point.t9x1b6gqrfph_Untitled%20item____&eo=0&where1=Cramond%2C%20Edinburgh%20City&form=LMLTCC

    and then make our way to a grassy area east of the rendesvous point, where we could sit and chat in between cycling. I'm planning on bringing a flask of tea and a small picnic I think.

    If you want to join us do say here and turn up, I'm sure we'll be found easily, just head for the group with lots of bikes. If I get my new bike I'll bring it 'Cotic >X<' I also have a Dawes Galaxy and a Spec rockhopper, but can only bring one.

    Dave C

    Posted 12 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    "we could meet at the end of the road/prom/path to Cramond Island here"

    aka http://www.cyclestreets.net/journey/to/55.980724,-3.299551/Start+of+the+Cramond+Causeway

    Posted 12 years ago #
  28. SRD
    Moderator

    yes, we'll probably bring tea and picnic as well (although the pub there does quite decent food).

    Posted 12 years ago #
  29. Roibeard
    Member

    @Dave - Greenends Gully also mapped... Let me guess, you'd be missing a dive computer and compass too?

    I keep meeting diving cyclists/cycling divers at the moment!

    Robert

    Posted 12 years ago #
  30. DaveC
    Member

    Yes I lost my Suuntos Vyper and SK7 the weekend of the 13th in St Abbs. I'm still a bit annoyed at loosing them. Smugge also dives, and has the same type of Rebreather as I used to own.

    Posted 12 years ago #

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