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  1. custard
    Member

    Okay,so they are an easy target
    I bought a Carrera from them a couple of years ago and it went fine
    alright some nuts n bolts needed tightened but it was painless

    fast forward and i go to look at the £500 offerings(C2W)
    get avoucher for a Boardman hybrid bringing it down to £450 before tax savings
    score!

    order the bike. no stock
    so I get a tentative date of a month
    get a call a week later to say its ready?
    then another cal to say its not
    then a couple of days later another call
    call back to confirm and it was about the bike but it was a mistake

    fair enough the manager was on Holiday and the staff seemed under pressure.

    eventually get the bike(i had to call to see if it was in)
    I get handed a 'built' bike with packaging still on,bits of tape and a wheel at 90 degrees to the handlebars

    so I get them to straighten the wheel and remove the packaging as im riding home
    I had asked for the pedals to be left off for my SPDs
    this hadnt been done and TBH I couldnt be bothered to raise it

    the 'built' bike had brake levels at different angles,neither very natural
    loose grips
    I lost a end plug on the way home
    QRs weren't very tight
    tyre pressures were low
    seat post was very low,no offer to correct this(i had my cooltool with me)
    in fairness the gears were set up well

    the bike is nice and I like it. however Boardman is their top brand and with bikes heading to £2k you expect a bit of care

    I was suffering punctures on the rear and couldnt work it out
    realised i had a snapped spoke (doh!)
    so given the bike was 3 weeks old i popped it back for repair
    Halfords dont stock black spokes,really? not even one spoke?
    so this had to be ordered in
    collected today.now i never mentioned it when i dropped it off (Thursday AM)
    but I could feel the tyre was losing air and assumed another puncture from the spoke
    when i dropped it off the tyre was near flat
    when i got outside i could see the tyres were low
    so i popped to work as i keep a track pump there
    pumped the tyres up
    however after a couple of miles it was obvious the tyre was losing air and was pretty low
    now I can only assume they put air in the tyres today and just handed it over
    yes I didnt mention it but I would expect them to at least check

    since I got my boardman they have got 3 more sales from folks at work on the back of seeing my bike.
    however I still cant recommend them gven the lacklustre service offered

    now I know this seems like a rantr,however its more dissapointment. the Boardman range are good value and going by mine nice bikes to ride.
    It just seems Halfords arent willing to back up the bikes

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. custard
    Member

    oh yeah
    they also had a Boardman single speed on a rack @£499
    spot whats not quite right?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. wee folding bike
    Member

    No mudguards?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. splitshift
    Member

    LHD ? and only one pedal ?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. DaveC
    Member

    Go on then tell? As for the lack of decent service, complain to Chris B himself. If I was putting my name to a bike I'd expect them to be at least building them up right.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. crowriver
    Member

    Either the back whe el's been fitted the wrong way round (tread on tyres is correct though) or this is a flip=flop drive, ie. cogs on both sides, flip it if you want higher/lower number of teeth on cog? Like in the olden days before derailleurs...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. wee folding bike
    Member

    Looks like the right hand sprocket is there.

    It wasn't just in the old days before derailleurs, we used fixed wheels in the winter so as to not damage expensive bits of transmission on the winter and because they give you a bit of information about the ice on the road.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. custard
    Member

    sorry the forum sliced the pic :o
    theres no cog on side of the wheel with the chain on it
    just sitting on the hub

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    "sorry the forum sliced the pic"

    Aha, that's slightly why people were a bit confused - software is supposed to auto-size to fit but it doesn't always work!

    Have fixed the pic so it's more centred.

    BUT still not 'obvious' as it's not something you expect!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I know from most people I know with Boardman bikes that they are great bikes and they really like them. Also, for the money they cost they are great value.

    But, yes, Halfords, another story. Never had a good experience with them and have been avoided like the plague. Also had reason once (nearest "bike shop" to my work) to take a bike in with snapped spoke and was quoted for a new wheel instead. I took wheel off, got on bus, went to an LBS instead and had a new one fitted on the spot for about £8.

    Beyond getting a big distribution network I don't know why Boardman stick with them. I think they are good enough bikes now with a good enough and big enough reputation, and certainly at the right price, to cut it in the "real world". Halfords can only do damage to the reuptation of Boardman through their sloppy (sometimes dangerous) bike-building, terrible customer service, the fact you have to drive out to get to most of their shed shops and general disinterest in actually competing in the bike market.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    Chris Boardman @Chris_Boardman replied to you:

    Chris_Boardman Chris Boardman

    @CyclingEdin Thanks for letting me know, we are discussing with H now & this helps a lot. If you contact H customer service that helps too!

    Aug 04, 9:11 AM via Echofon

    In reply to…

    CyclingEdin Cycling Edinburgh

    @Chris_Boardman

    More tales of @Halfords_UK staff not supporting your bikes/brand properly citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.…

    Aug 04, 7:54 AM via Mobile Web

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. I haven't had a bike from them in over ten years, but the issues were exactly the same. Very very poorly set-up (and this was before I really knew how to do it myself) and when you asked for things they just ignored them (I had to take a bike back with a cracked frame - I'd changed the pedals and asked for them to be put onto the warranty replacement, those pedals (some DMR V8s) simply disappeared).

    You'd think after more than a decade of the same problems (and these are repeated on cycling fora all over the country) they'd have cottoned on.

    And kaputnik's point about having to drive out to Halfords is an important one. It's certainly not a 'bike shop' in a traditional sense...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. wee folding bike
    Member

    I've got the odd kid's bike from Halfords.

    The last time I took it still in the box and told the guy I'd manage to put it together.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. LaidBack
    Member

    More Boardman bikes means more work for The Bicycle Works and others though...

    In a browse through 'bikes in' at Argyle Place there's often one in for a sort out.

    Not everyone has a handy local shop who will do this though.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    "It's certainly not a 'bike shop' in a traditional sense..."

    That's its attraction to many people. They don't like 'fussy' retail and some types (or long memories of) of shops that did/do look down on people with only £100 or so to spend.

    Generally Edinburgh bike shops are above average at customer service.

    Halfords have done well out of 'bike to work' as some large employers (especially with nationwide workplaces) go for the easy option of signing up with another large company.

    Halfords has experimented with standalone and in-store 'bike hut' specialists, but have never quite got the formula right.

    Many small bike shops are happy to have a Halfords 'up the road' as it gives them lots of business!

    Halfords aren't really competing with LBSs - more ASDA, Tesco etc.

    From 'our' point of view we want Halfords to be better at selling bikes that are 'safe' and fit people properly so that they actually want to ride them.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  16. steveo
    Member

    My work were going to sign on with halfords but some one mentioned to HR that Halfords weren't exactly the best bike shop so we signed on with Cycle Scheme which gives Halfords nationwide coverage but lets the user deal with local bike shops.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  17. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I'm tied into some Halfords-only scheme.

    *mutters*

    Posted 12 years ago #
  18. Aye, our place uses Halfords as well (and there's very little chance of me swaying that given the size of the organisation). We can order any bike that they don't stock, but it then doesn't come with the warranty and free work done on it etc. Not much of a loss where Halfords is concerned of course...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  19. kaputnik
    Moderator

    The only thing that I'd consider using B2W for (now that I have my own B2W x 3, provided from my own sources) is to spread the cost of buying bling bike wheels! So not really in the spirit of the scheme.

    *Thinks* wonder if they'd let me buy a £100 Apollo with some £900 wheels on it and I could just donate the former to TBS.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  20. gembo
    Member

    I am guessing Boardman must be tied into a Halfords only deal too? The advert on during every ad break of the tour featured a very good looking bike and must have cost a penny to make and then air time to pay for. THe competition on ITV also featured great looking bikes [I always think if you do it free on website you never win, doesn't stop me but I didn't win, despite entering 12 times, how can that be?]. Chris Boardman himself also able to be presenting in the studio and ignore the fact that a second ago there was a massive plug for his bikes. I say 'chapeau' to him.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  21. DaveC
    Member

    I thought there were rules regarding advertising for products endorsed buy people accociated with the show the adverts are cutting into? Or did they change them a short while back?

    My last two employers use Cyclescheme.co.uk and I'm glad as I don't think I ever want to buy an adult bike from Halfords EVER!!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  22. crowriver
    Member

    I've bought children's bikes from Halfords, but online. Usually check out the bikes in store first, then off home, fire up the browser, credit card ready. A big box arrives and you put the wheels, pedals, bars, saddle on yourself. They even include instructions and basic tools to do the job. Not exactly difficult. The bikes are usually good for the price, and there are online discounts to be had.

    For my own bikes, if I don't buy second hand then I prefer a more 'serious' bike shop...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  23. Re. Boardman, it was also funny that when he did the little riding sections on the show, either with Ned Boulting or showing what the last km of the stage was like, he'd be riding a Boardman bike, but all the logos and so on were covered up.

    Also interesting to note that he's lost a lot of weight since he started doing that a few years back - he did get quoted once as saying he didn't particularly like cycling, but just happened to be quite good at it...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  24. gembo
    Member

    @Dave C - normally I would object to that sort of thing but with Chris Boardman I was OK with it. I might be wrong but I see what he is doing as helping Halfords become a better shop. Even when it has been quite busy I found the staff in Halfords friendly and helpful [picking up kids bike bought from internet], me haggling as ususal, them dealing with me and the rest of the great unwashed British public.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  25. wee folding bike
    Member

    Airdrie Halfords had a push to sell GT45. As part of this they had signs in the shop claiming that WD-40 could cause corrosion.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  26. kaputnik
    Moderator

    he'd be riding a Boardman bike, but all the logos and so on were covered up

    I think - from following tweets - he was riding a custom prototype Boardman bike, so it isn't properly finished in terms of logos etc. like a production bike. Black but with yellow insides on the forks and detailing on the frame (yes, i was admiring it!)? Could be wrong though...

    I think they (Boardman) have/are about to begin selling directly off their website. There's certainly a "Buy" section on it, don't know if Halfords are involved at all in that.

    The new "elite" range are also not sold through Halfords it would seem but through a small number of specialist distributors / LBSs. These are super-high-end mega-bucks bikes aimed really at the racing market and probably sold only in very small volumes. The AiRTT9.8 is drop-dead gorgeous but when I clicked "buy" it came up at £6,999.99 :(

    Airdrie Halfords had a push to sell GT45

    Cheap version of GT85?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  27. wee folding bike
    Member

    Ooops, yes, I got some WD-20 instead.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  28. PS
    Member

    I think I read an interview with Chris Boardman where he said they went with Halfords because that enabled them to launch and sell their bikes across the country and in sufficient numbers that they could get that low price point. He's also very upfront in interviews (and responses to comments on Twitter as chdot has shown) that Halfords are being stretched by delivering bikes of a decent spec. He says the management are going for a cultural change in the company but I don't know how achievable that is - the guys you see in Halfords never strike me as people either happy in their work or with a view to it being a long term career choice. Everyone I know who has bought a Boardman bike has had to so some substantial work on it to get it properly rideable. If you know that's going to happen and you are able or your friendly LBS is prepared to do that for you, then fine; but if not, it's pretty crappy.

    As K says, the Elite range are going through specialist retailers. They've also launched in the US, possibly as internet-only sales, on the back of sponsoring a team out there.

    K: I'm pretty sure the bike he rode on the ITV4 coverage last year has taped up logos as well. It seems a bit off that he has to hide the logos on that, but ITV don't tell him to hide the logos on all the Assos kits he's wearing - he should be looking for a cheeky payment from them for that (or Rohan when doing his punditry)...

    Anth: I think he took up running after he retired as he associated cycling with work, but ended up picking up an injury that meant he couldn't run. So he got back on the bike and found he was enjoying it again. Cycling is a much more effective way to lose weight than running. Fact.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  29. thebikechain
    Member

    Big companies are at the mercy of the HR departments skill in recruiting people.

    Simply put, most problems they have are due to poorly motivated and knowledgeable staff. Shame. If a company that size put there mind to bikes properly there is no reason why they couldn't be be the best.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  30. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Big companies don't offer complimentary donuts to awesome customers.

    Posted 12 years ago #

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