No, it's just that if it was at Gillespies and you go by tandem, we had a conversation on Tuesday night about the fact you were on a tandem. But it must have been someone else.
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Spokes Public Meeting: City Council Action Plan
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@Kim
"I realised that the Transport Committee has little or no influence on the Planning Committee. Therefore is unable to restrict the large parking developments which bring large flows of traffic into the city."
From new Active Travel report
"Conclusion on planning
90. The Committee believes that active travel must be at the heart of new planning developments rather than included as an afterthought. The Committee also believes that planning professionals may need additional training in order to take account of the requirements of active travel. The draft CAPS document mentions the aim to ‘increase awareness and understanding among transport planners and engineers’ of active travel. The Committee recommends that the CAPS document sets out in specific terms how it proposes to do this.
91. Local political leadership will also be required in order to ensure that local planning decisions properly take into account active travel considerations. The Committee notes the objective in the draft CAPS to require local authorities and developers to use relevant guidance documents. The Committee asks the Scottish Government for more information on how it or planning authorities themselves will monitor the use of these guidance documents to ensure that they are properly taken into account in planning decisions.
92. The Committee’s next inquiry will be into the relationship between transport and land use planning policies. The Committee anticipates that as part of this inquiry it will want to investigate in more detail how the requirement for modern, integrated transport connectivity and sustainable transport provision is currently taken into account in the preparation of strategic and local development plans"
http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/s3/committees/ticc/reports-10/trr10-04.htm
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@Kim
"the Transport Committee is unable to change the speed limits across the city, which go along way to making people feel safer in the city. Even if the 30 mph speed limit was replaced with a 20 mph limit, he couldn't get the police to enforce it anyway"
From new Active Travel report
96. Peter Zanzoterra of Steer Davies Gleave explained that “where infrastructure has been provided to manage traffic speed down, local 20mph schemes have on average achieved something like a 50 per cent reduction in injuries to vulnerable road users.”
107. The Minister for Transport, Infrastructure and Climate Change commented on the question of how to address the safety fears of walkers and cyclists—
“Safety was one of the clear issues that came out of our consultation on the cycling action plan. The speed of other traffic was a cause of particular concern. Where local authorities have exercised their powers to implement 20mph zones in areas where, among other things, there is a higher density of cyclists, it has generally been thought to be helpful. There is now a 20mph limit outside 90 per cent of our schools, which has been particularly helpful—along with restrictions on parking—in encouraging students to walk and cycle to school.”
"Conclusion on speed limits
108. The Committee notes the evidence from many witnesses that a 20mph speed limit in residential areas, near schools and on other relevant routes would have a significant impact in encouraging walkers and cyclists to feel safer, thereby encouraging participation in active travel. The Committee believes that the draft Cycling Action Plan for Scotland should be amended in order to set out specific proposals to encourage the wider adoption of 20mph speed limits in appropriate locations in order to promote active travel."
http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/s3/committees/ticc/reports-10/trr10-04.htm
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I sometimes wonder if policy and planning are in two separate parallel universes, and never the twain shall meet :-(
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"I sometimes wonder if policy and planning are in two separate parallel universes"
77. This complaint was echoed by Chris Thompson of Moray Council who explained—
“The traditional planning approach creates isolated pockets of good practice or excellence around, for example, a new hospital. However, those stretch only as far as the end of the road and then we are back to whatever existed previously.”
http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/s3/committees/ticc/reports-10/trr10-04.htm
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@SRD
Not even a single yellow
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Chris, that's a good contender for the Warrington Cycle Campaign. Seeing that photo, it just occurred to me that until now I'd had no idea there was a cycle lane on that section of road at all, and I've been up and down there enough times! And yet presumably it counts towards CEC's total mileage provision.
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"presumably it counts towards CEC's total mileage provision"
That was EXACTLY the question I asked the councillor at the Spokes meeting, when he sort of agreed with point, but then said 'they're not always parked up'. Hence my challenge. Maybe I should offer a prize - I'm confident I'll never have to pay up.
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