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Started 13 years ago by Smudge
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Smudge
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As some of you will know I've been answering this muppets over the top Clarkson-esque comments on the EN and Hootsmon websites over the last day or so. Mainly because the months of anti cycle/car drivers are victims nonsense is really getting up my nose.

So please, if you are inclined, feel free to join in as I appear to have started to annoy him (http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/transport/crackdown_on_phone_call_drivers_1_1977896 ) by pointing out every time he bleats that the laws are clear, they are there for the general good, and deliberate criminality is criminality whether it's breaking a speed limit you disagree with or robbing banks because you think they can afford it....

Of course in real life we know little is black and white, however for the sake of winding up bigots I'm prepared to adopt a relatively extremist position, in the name of a sporting challenge naturally :-)

Posted 13 years ago #
Smudge
Member

If anyone wants to play may I recommend :
http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/transport/highway_code_proves_a_closed_book_1_1981659

http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/average_cameras_to_enforce_40mph_limit_at_forth_bridge_1_1985744

and

http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/shandwick_place_cars_u_turn_1_1980323

Posted 13 years ago #
kaputnik
Moderator

There used to be a popular meme for "do not feed the trolls" :)

Posted 13 years ago #
Smudge
Member

True... but when the trolls shout their lies long enough and loud enough unopposed they become "what everyone thinks" or to paraphrase Goebbels "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

I feel this guy has been shouting his prejudice so long on these (EN & Hootsmon) boards that it's time to give him a little poke to remind him (and everyone else) how foolish he looks. Before the lies becomes any more accepted. It is all the little places such as these which help to create the "them and us", as with any prejudice and reinforce the "outgroup" image of normal people who happen to be on bicycles, or indeed obeying the speed limits.

Posted 13 years ago #
Wilmington's Cow
Member

Crikey - he was always a bit 'frothy' in the past, but appears permanently 'apoplectic' now!

Posted 13 years ago #
chdot
Admin

"when the trolls shout their lies long enough and loud enough unopposed they become "what everyone thinks" "

That's a valid point

Anth and I (and others) have at various times put various comments on driving/cycling stories.

But after a while you tend to leave them to it.

Reporting 'offensive comments' might be more productive.

A(HA)FH is ever present. Wonder what he does when he's not posting or driving. MAybe he doesn't actually drive!?!

Seem to remember he also has a motorbike.

Posted 13 years ago #
Smudge
Member

"Seem to remember he also has a motorbike."

Wasn't that fluffy duncan or whatever he's called?
(ahh yes, "Duncan in Edinburghs Fluffer", assuming that's not an impolite thing to repeat on here!)

Posted 13 years ago #
steveo
Member

Smudge you have the patients of a saint...

Posted 13 years ago #
Instography
Member

It's very tempting.

Posted 13 years ago #
Smudge
Member

Or a vindictive streak a mile wide....? ;-)

Posted 13 years ago #
Wilmington's Cow
Member

As chdot mentions, a few years back I took it upon myself to 're-educate'. It's funny how you can get people to back down and become civil when you know what you're talking about.

Doesn't take long for the frothing to start again though!

Posted 13 years ago #
Smudge
Member

Also, if there are a steady stream of comments promoting the middle ground (or even, heaven forfend, the pro-active transport argument) the clarksonites can be made to look like a fringe group.

Little nibbles in every area....

Posted 13 years ago #
Smudge
Member

@Steveo, why thank you, but as I watch the comments I see I am not alone ;-)

Posted 13 years ago #
cb
Member

Funniest bit was when you were accused of driving a Volvo.

Posted 13 years ago #
Smudge
Member

lol yes, I can truthfully say the only Volvo I remember driving was an FL7 artic, the one I did my test in! (Though I have a vague memory of driving a rigid one when I was working as an agency driver) I seem to remember that when the seat was far enough forward to comfortably reach the pedals I couldn't reach the exhaust brake with my heel (perils of being a shorta***!)

Posted 13 years ago #
Wilmington's Cow
Member

Damned site won't let me log in, or register a new account.

I drove through Newbridge towards Stirling in both directions yesterday. Not down to one lane in either direction...

40mph over a mile = 1m30s
50mph over a mile = 1m12s
70mph over a mile = 51s

Mr Fuel Head is frothing over losing 18 seconds.... Even compared to the normal 70 limit it's just 39 seconds...

Posted 13 years ago #
DaveC
Member

Off topic...

FL7's were nice, good solid gearboxes but alway felt little low to the ground. The MAN's were nice and I also liked the newer Scanias = hundreds of buttons to press.... The wrost were B and C reg Fords whilst working for a flatbed haulage Co in Leeds.

Posted 13 years ago #
mgj
Member

He's very similar to a guy we have on our intranet, ex forces, climate change denier, anti red tape/H&S, and every other cliche under the sun.

Posted 13 years ago #
cb
Member

I think the one lane bit could be on the M9 spur, but haven't actually been that way since the roadworks.

Drove the M9 today. Far more civilised and felt much safer with the avergae speed cameras installed.

But I'll never get those 18s back.

Posted 13 years ago #
Smudge
Member

@anth, just create a new yahoo/hotmail account and log in using that.

@cb good job I'd finished my coffee... lol :-)

Posted 13 years ago #
Wilmington's Cow
Member

@Smudge, tis more or less what I tried to do - used an email I'm not registered there with to try and get a new log-in. Kept bouncing me.

Posted 13 years ago #
Wilmington's Cow
Member

Finally it worked!

Posted 13 years ago #
Smudge
Member

Heh heh heh, Anth, you are also a bad man :-) Trolls are hungry these days, but just as easy to confuse B-)

Posted 13 years ago #
Wilmington's Cow
Member

He's gone awfy quiet...

Posted 13 years ago #
Min
Member

Maybe he is stuck on the motorway..

Posted 13 years ago #
Kim
Member

I have to object to this behaviour on health and safety grounds!

I fell off my chair laughing...

Posted 13 years ago #
LaidBack
Member

I had visitor to showroom today who gradually edged into the 'menace of too much cycling of the wrong sort, in the wrong places - ie Meadows' . I gave him some free CEC cycle maps - hopefully not made things worse (!)

Posted 13 years ago #
Kirst
Member

Oooops I was bad.

Posted 13 years ago #
Arellcat
Moderator

You can usually count on Artemis and Road Raga to bring some balance to the EEN proceedings.

@mgj: He's very similar to a guy we have on our intranet...

Funnily enough, I've been thinking much the same about our learned correspondent's similarity to a most prolific and forthright chap.

Posted 13 years ago #
Wilmington's Cow
Member

Can't find him today...

And Kirst, yes, very bad.

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