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Posted 12 years ago #
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From report of DfT data in The Guardian
DfT statisticians analysed reported casualties by day and time of day. They found that 60% of cyclist casualties occur during the rush hours of 7am – 10am and 4pm – 7pm, and more road accidents happen on a Monday to Thursday (65%) than at the weekend (45%). The DfT report concludes that the cyclist deaths are likely to be related to school and work travel.
There will be some hours of darkness in there but it's hard to say how much it's a question of visibility and how much just plain inattentiveness and stupidity on the part of drivers (and some of the cyclists). Personally, I'm with Smudge on the primacy of good, assertive positioning but I wouldn't trust any of the clowns in cars with my life so I unapologetically add the hi viz jacket and the eye-searing lights.
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I don't feel qualified to comment for once ... haven't any stats!
Anyway...
I now run lights during the day at moment. Not sure why .... other than to compensate for the 'you're too low' disapproval of some and the fact dynamo lighting gets cheaper the more you use it (hub is 10 years old so it must have paid for itself by now).
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@LivD, I agree and that was one reason why daytime running lights were so widely opposed - they make it possible to decide whether to hook / pull out based on looking for a gap in pearl strings of LED lights, so cyclists and pedestrians are relatively disadvantaged.
Like LaidBack I ride with my lights permanently on (in fact, there is no off-switch!) and I guess I'm contributing to the same problem.
If you try riding with a beastly front light, suddenly people stop taking liberties in front of you. I'm sure it's not that they think you're a car, but there's obviously something about power lights that causes a change in behaviour (do they present as a threat, I wonder, to whatever part of the brain is searching for a reason not to do manouvre X)?
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@Insto - not sure about the figures of course (presume you have the same thoughts). For instance, "only" 3% of KSIs occur in cycle lanes apparently - but is the proportion of cycle mileage done in cycle lanes more or less than 3%?
Similarly, I was amused that away from junctions, going on for two thirds of crashes are apparently *not* being hit from behind. What the hell? (Overly specific coding or something?)
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@LivD I have often wondered what the roads (in street-lit) areas would be like if cars did not use lights in the dark. <snip> If NO ONE used vehicle-mounted lights, maybe things would slow down and all road users would be more observant.
Not quite the same, as it wasn't on lit streets, however blackout conditions in WWII did increase the number of accidents. What would have happened if the vehicles weren't lit, but the streets were lit, is an interesting proposal.
Of course, the converse (lit vehicles, unlit streets) is used throughout the countryside.
Robert
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Vehicles were pretty badly lit during the black out and of course peds would be next to invisible.
Car side lights really are sufficient to get around cities.
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And indeed the Highway Code minimum requirement for drivign round streetlit cities at night is sidelights.
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"That duty of care still extends to erratic ninjas, but as recombodna demonstrated that's bloody hard unless like him you're quick to pull the moves on attractive younger men."
lolz. Just about sprayed coffee all over the screen when that one clicked!!
Can I just say Uberuce that due to one of your posts earlier in the week one of the most hideous images appeared on my screen after a quick Google search. I'm still trying to scrub it off my eyes!! I'm sure you know what I mean if not then forget everything I just said...... I wish I could!!
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I think I mentioned it was better not to find out what it means...
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I'll pay you more heed in future.
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Oh, and I forgot to say: I had a drool at your bike.
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I'll doglike return to a post I made and say: good lordy it bugs me that parents of the kids I look after don't know what the internet is.
I've been kiddiewrangling for twelve years now and it's always smacked my gob that the progenitors of impressionable young minds apparently think there's no problem with having the gollygoshdarn interfilth sitting there in their children's bedrooms, as opposed to sitting in the communal living rooms with the monitor in plain and constant view of Mum and/or Dad as they go about evening business.
It's gotten worse as broadband has made video more streamy, but now with smartphones, they plumb that sewer pipe of the basest depths of human depravity into their children's pockets and let them carry it about all day?
No.
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