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New 'road safety' initiative

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  1. chdot
    Admin

    There have been oblique references on this site and yesterday's LB video is part of it.

    Now it's more public -

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    L&B Police (@LBP_Police)

    3/16/12 10:27 AM

    Get #cycle safety advice from the Streets Ahead Partnership and the chance have your bike marked for free Please RT http://www.lbp.police.uk/crime_prevention/cycle_safety_events.aspx

    "

    There's even a website -

    http://streetsaheadedinburgh.org.uk

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. Roibeard
    Member

    Saw the website advertised on the back of a Lothian Bus last night - it was part of the publicity for the 20mph pilot.

    Robert

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    There is also going to be a back of the bus campaign for (cars) not stopping in ASL boxes, and a reminder about RLJing.

    Followed by enforcement (probably May).

    Be careful on the KB corridor...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. SRD
    Moderator

    "There is also going to be a back of the bus campaign for (cars) not stopping in ASL boxes, ."

    BRILL! wasn't this an idea punted on the forum way back?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. DdF
    Member

    There is more on all of this on page 3 of Spokes Bulletin 112, e.g. the campaign continues in June with a focus on HGV and bus blind spots.
    http://www.spokes.org.uk/wordpress/bulletin/

    Also the *really* dangerous drivers still on the roads - with shocking conviction records yet still allowed to drive.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. LaidBack
    Member

    Roadshow here... sorry got this but no link....

    Cycle Smart

    Making the city’s streets safer for cyclists is the aim of a major campaign to be launched next month by the Council and its partners in Lothian and Borders Police, NHS Lothian and Lothian and Borders Fire and Rescue Service.

    The campaign aims to reduce the number of road traffic incidents involving cyclists on Edinburgh’s roads through an education and behavioural change campaign targeted at both cyclists and motorists.

    The campaign aims to:

      • educate cyclists and motorists on the appropriate behaviour required by law at traffic lights and advanced stop lines
      • increase awareness and understanding of the role traffic lights and advanced stop lines play in improving safety for cyclists
      • increase awareness of the consequences of inappropriate motorist and cyclist behaviour
      • encourage a better space-sharing philosophy among motorists and cyclists.

    The campaign will launch on April 2 2012 with a series of high profile events focusing on educating cyclists and motorists on the importance of observing traffic lights and advanced stop lines.

    A cycling safety roadshow will tour university, NHS and Council buildings.

      Monday 2 April - Waverley Court (City of Edinburgh Council HQ),
      Tuesday 3 April - Teviot House (Edinburgh University)
      Wednesday 4 April - Edinburgh Royal Infirmary
      Thursday 5 April - King’s Buildings House (Edinburgh University).
      The second phase of the campaign will involve enforcement action taken by police with cyclists and motorists that are not obeying the law. This activity will commence weeks after the start of the educational campaign.

    A campaign focusing on large goods vehicles and cycle safety will be launched in June 2012 to coincide with Bike Week (18/06/12 – 22/06/12) and the Royal Highland Show (28/06/12 – 01/07/11). This campaign will offer advice to cyclists, especially in-terms of the large blind spots faced by drivers of large vehicles. City-wide advertising will complement these campaigns.

    The Council is to supply all its large goods vehicles with special blind spot lenses (fresnel lenses), as well as with cyclist warning signs on the rear of the vehicles, warning cyclists to beware of passing large vehicles on the inside.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. splitshift
    Member

    hopefully me n my truck are involved, in conversation with LBP.IAM members at work are also taking an interest, so can only help !

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. fimm
    Member

    The Council is to supply all its large goods vehicles with special blind spot lenses (fresnel lenses), as well as with cyclist warning signs on the rear of the vehicles, warning cyclists to beware of passing large vehicles on the inside.

    Do you think they'll have some training for the drivers of the bin lorries? Some of my worst interactions with other vehicles have been with them (including diving through cones to get out of the line of someone who didn't seem to think that driving a big lorry right next to a cyclist was a problem...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. Nelly
    Member

    Had a look at the website. Very encouraging, and - apart from the section recommending fluorescent clothes - non preachy.

    This, added to the lothian buses vid, 20mph pilot, POP28 work etc gives hope that the future for cycling will be much better.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. wee folding bike
    Member

    Fluorescent is not the same as brightly coloured.

    Grrrrrrrr.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. fimm
    Member

    Look, at least they say nothing about what you might wear on your head...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. Smudge
    Member

    A POP cycling cap? hopefully :)

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    Coming to a bus shelter near you - with horizontal versions on the backs of buses (I think these are the final designs).

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. crowriver
    Member

    I must say that since my local ASLs have been refreshed with white paint, the majority of motorists are respecting the sanctity of the cycle box. Very refreshing after years where the cycle symbol and white lines were barely visible and it was impossible often to get into the box...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  15. Uberuce
    Member

    Good lordy lummikins those posters aren't good. The design I had in my head for the same thing was well prettier. Admittedly that was because it was in Kaputnik's style: image 1 was of grumpy driver crossing the line, while despairing cyclist waits in the red paint and in front another cyclist jumps the red; image 2 was of driver and cyclists Kappily smiling as they use the ASZ properly.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  16. cb
    Member

    I like the fact that the ASZ is empty of cyclists in the 'drivers' version.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    This seems to be missing the important bit - see poster version!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  18. Claggy Cog
    Member

    Ooops!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    "MOTORISTS and cyclists are to be fined for failing to observe traffic signals and road markings under a new crackdown."

    http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/edinburgh/road-users-face-fines-in-city-s-safety-bid-1-2214170

    Posted 12 years ago #
  20. amir
    Member

    WARNING: Do not bother read the readers' comments in the above link. Not good for one's health - especially Anth!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  21. Dave
    Member

    Free coffee at PY if anyone can capture a photo of a motorist getting an NIP for an ASL violation in the upcoming campaign...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    Is that one coffee per (photo of) ticket??

    Posted 12 years ago #
  23. @amir

    Already been reading and having a chuckle. Wee holiday has done me good... ;)

    Posted 12 years ago #
  24. Dave
    Member

    I'm not even willing to risk one coffee per motorist chdot... but the offer stands since I suspect nobody will get more than a gentle verbal slap (unless they are a cyclist, in which case they are liable to being wrestled to the ground and fined for any technical violation).

    </notcynical>

    Posted 12 years ago #
  25. The entire scheme is intended to be 'educational' and initially neither cyclist nor motorist is liable to be issued with a ticket, but after the visibility of the campaign has been maintainde for a short while tickets will then start to be issued.

    Would it count for the prize if, after the scheme finishes, I do an FOI request whcih reveals the numbers given tickets?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  26. crowriver
    Member

    Have to say I was pleasantly surprised today at the junction of Brunswick St/Leith Walk. Car had stopped in ASL, I undertook in feeder lane, stopped in front but front wheel just over the white line. Car then reverses out of the ASL (nothing behind). I was incredulous! Never seen that happen before, ever. So I thought I'd better shuffle back into the ASL properly, seeing as I now had the space...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  27. SRD
    Moderator

    I have not had any cars encroach on ASL in several days either...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  28. Dave
    Member

    One thing I did notice is that the bus lane camera on Leith St is now active, and it is causing *carnage*. I've literally never had it so busy coming up there.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  29. Claggy Cog
    Member

    They were at the NRIE site today, Spokes had a stall set up sharing with Streets Ahead, L&B presence and a bike mechanic (Dr Bike?). They are apparently at King's Buildings tomorrow. Every bike seemed to get one snap on leg band attached to it, and they pretty much covered every single bike on the premises other than university ones that are in a locked up covered bit.

    Perhaps the thought of getting nicked and a £60 fine and 3 points is just not worth it, three counts and you'd be out, pretty much, one point off a ban.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  30. Tulyar
    Member

    Took a look at the site - off that they don't invite feedback or give any contact details for obtaining further information.

    Still misses the most fundamental way of delivering road safety - Eye Contact with other road users. Very effective option with bus drivers rolling up behind and bus stop ahead - swift non verbal negotiation and you've sorted out whether they will pull in on the inside, if you move out, or crawl along behind, unless you invite them to overtake. (hint it is polite and appreciated if you do pull out to let the bus pull in).

    That sorts out the 120 degree safety and signalling system available to all road users (including pedestrians)

    Nothing yet either about keeping the 360 degree safety systems working properly and using the 'audible alerts' systems properly to confirm your presence is detected. Nothing wrong with a quick toot from the bus behind to get you to look back or raise an arm to confirm you know the bus is there.

    Standard practice on railway - driver sounds horn workers all acknowledge they are aware of the train approaching by raising their arms. I wonder if we could train pedestrians that way too cyclist rings bell or calls out, pedestrian raises arm to acknowledge.

    Posted 12 years ago #

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