Second bike shop opening in Edinburgh this week.
Though strictly this is a re-location and replacement.
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Apologies...I just managed to tag this post as 'clean'. I thought I'd typed into a search box. Complete brain failure. *looks embarrassed*
Mind boggles as to why you'd want to search CCE for "clean".
obviously trying to avoid the dubious and expletive ridden video recently posted by...oh, by the administrator...
"trying to avoid the dubious and expletive ridden video"
How do you know...
lol I was trying to search for best way to clean hair dye of a bath but thought I was typing in the wee search box in my browser not this site
That Clubman's rather spiffy.
The Clubman is very pretty isn't it, very refreshing to see more and more bikes appearing with necessary things like mudguards and racks already fitted :-)
I like it's slightly retro (reminiscent of Lemond bikes) decals. And the matching mudguards.
Okay, I really like that Clubman...
But I don't think it's a grand's worth.
More detailed spec on the Raleigh USA web site:
They also have a whole range of steel framed bikes, most are not available in the UK :-(
Also some interesting framesets. Check out the International!
Forget it. I don't care what commission you're on. I'm not buying one. It's a replacement for the 20 year old mountain bike next.
"But I don't think it's a grand's worth."
Damn right, if they'd been less greedy and put it about £600ish they'd have shifted hundreds :-/
Forget it. I don't care what commission you're on.
0%. I just think if they're making some half decent bikes, I feel like sharing that. Goodness knows we've heard plenty about Dawes Galaxies, the ranges made by Planet X, Cotic, etc.
I'd buy it if they had spec'd lighter steel than 520, like 631. But you are right you can buy higher spec bikes for less these days.
I'm kidding. It's good to see they're still alive and making good looking bikes.
They are good looking, and it's good to see Raleigh making "decent" bikes again. I'm sure the majority of us have had, or ridden a Raleigh at some point.
I just feel it's a shame that they don't have the vision to push out some good mid range bikes at cost, or even as loss leaders, with a view to getting them back into the position of premier brand. Halfords/Boardman have managed it starting with an unknown name.
For example look at their "international" frameset, lovely yes, but with suggested prices well into four figures it's irrelevant to 99% of riders, I mean come on, it is nine steel pipes and a couple of castings/stampings welded together (by mass production, not an individual!) chucked through a spray booth which is already bought and paid for and then with a few pence worth of transfers applied. Ignore all the nonsense they will talk about it (hand crafted this and finely tuned that etc etc) and it is a basic steel frame, made from better tubing and hopefully with slightly stricter quality control. They could half the price and still make a very healthy profit, and get their name out on the roads, but instead it is priced as a "premium" product. Absolute nonsense and unfortunately a rip off for the customers imho :-(
(and this is from someone who would quite like to build a nice Raleigh framed road bike!)
The Raleigh International frameset spec given is:
Frame: Lugged Reynolds 853 Butted Chromoly
Fork: Flat Crown Lugged Reynolds 853 Road
If it's lugged construction, then I presume it has been fillet brazed rather than welded?
I don't know what the price of an International frameset is, but the rather differently specced (canti bosses, welded construction, no chrome bits) Dawes Ultra Galaxy 853 frameset has a list price of £700.
I'd expect the International to cost a bit more than that. Only prices (rumoured) I've found have been around $1500/£900 mark. No idea what the availability of the frameset is. The whole bike is apparently quite expensive, hardly surprising when a Dura Ace groupset alone will set you back around £1300...
Oh, and I take your point about the mid-range/mid-price steel frame offering from Raleigh. They do seem to offer plenty of bikes in this area to the US market, but alas not here in the UK.
Maybe that will change under new ownership, maybe not...
Had a close look at the Clubman this afternoon, when I popped in to check out the new Eastside. It's a nice bike, it has to be said.
Some interesting second hand bikes and frames in there too...
Raleigh sojourn that was in the Harrods catalogue that came in guardian yesterday also looking good - black with cream lemond style decals, drops, black mudguards and disc breaks
"Designed in the US"
Another nice looking bike, if they'd shaved a couple of hundred off the asking price it could have made a great cycle to work bike!
This looks like a do-er-upper with a similar long wheel-base:
Same price point as a Dawes Galaxy, with similar spec: 631 frame, etc. Disc brakes rather than cantis, 8 speed instead of 9, Brooks B17 in place of a Selle Italia gel, otherwise quite similar.
Basically if folk will pay 1200 quid for a Galaxy then the Sojourn is fairly priced at 1100.
There as a 1985 Galaxy in Soul Cycles for under £200 that I missed due to lax browsing.
Cursed myself and moved on with life.
Next time I was in there, I mentioned it and Euan the Kurt Cobain lookalike cursed the fact they sold it for that little since it was *immaculate*.
I know this since I saw it the next time I was in there and the b@!f#c~''*1!! who bought it was walking it in, at which point I cursed him to his face. Only mildly, I assure you, unless you are of Judaic or Islamic persuasion, in which case I guess being called a swine is bad. The young lad took it with pride, as I hoped he would.
Not worth that!
@Crowriver, fair argument, except that for many people the Dawes Galaxy is the benchmark for a touring bike, whereas the Raleigh name has, to be blunt, been viewed by many in the same way that Austin Rover were viewed by car enthusiasts, a formerly good brand now producing nothing of worth. Imho to re-establish their brand they either need to produce astonishingly good bikes at a comparable price point or simply good bikes at a cheaper price point. Compared with the Dawes, this is an ok looking bike with a "nothing special" spec sheet, pretty, but the smart money would always pick the Dawes as it's a proven product (at a year old the Dawes will have held a chunk of it's value, the Raleigh considerably less) . Now in a few years it might prove its worth, but for now it's a gamble and in tourers that is not a good thing. Also, as I intimated, they're missing the bike to work mark by only £100, seems a strange price point if they want to take sales from established touring brands.
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