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Any tips of how to avoid the munchies?
(56 posts)- Started 12 years ago by amir
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I've always thought milk gets an unfair press in respect of its fat content. Possibly because skimmed milk is available, so it seems an easy way to cut some fat out of the diet. But how much milk would you have to drink to make a difference? And skimmed milk is such a joyless invention - so thin, grey and unsatisfying.
Back to amir's original question, I rarely find porridge keeps hunger at bay to lunch, unless I have laced it with cream. I need to eat fat and/or protein to keep hunger away, especially if I'm been particularly active that week (metabolism seems to go through the roof after a long ride).
I get Graze boxes sent to work, and will eat them if I'm hungry - small portions, but enough to keep me going.
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Goodness - Fair doos. I shall attempt to calibrate and check the basis of my theory by measuring the overall length of the belt!
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It might be helpful to distinguish between 'meal' hunger - the internal trigger that you should eat caused by a drop in blood sugars - and 'starvation' hunger - your body's reaction to a sustained calorie deficit.
Feeling peckish after exercise or eating to prevent bonking is meal hunger but what you describe, of being hungry soon after eating and exercise and combined with difficulty losing weight (And also DaveC's plateauing weight loss) might be a more fundamental reaction to what your body is perceiving as 'starvation' or a least a prolonged depletion of its hard-won (or these days too easily-won) fat reserves.
So, your body fights you to hang on to that fat by encouraging you to eat. It does this metabolically. The bad news is that you're pretty much on a hiding to nothing trying to win against your own body.
You might find this interesting, if a little depressing.
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My weight gains and losses are fairly small. I had been managing to hover about 77kg and now I am hovering around 78kg. I know that hydration has a big effect so I measure at the same time each year. I'd like to be moving towards 75kg so that I can skip up those hills (a la Brad). But "like" isn't the same as "will".
The semi-skimmed milk this morning did seemed to put off the killer pangs til lunchtime today (helped by also being force fed ginger cake by work colleagues - oh, I suffer).
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Yep, you need food dude. :-) It is worth trying a few different things to see what works for you. Personally the whole "piece of fruit and a few nuts" thing would have me raiding the chocolate machine within half an hour but it might work for you.
Once you have your starvation under control you can start to look at what you might need to do to edge further towards Brad-ness, if that doesn't do it on its own which it might.
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Porage for breakfast.
Then have Elevenses.
I managed to lose 3 kg in a month, just by cutting right back on beer, wine, etc. Exercise helps too.
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If I stop crisps and chocolate I'll shed about 2lbs a week.
Not sure why I don't consistently gain 2 lbs a week when I go back to the sweeties. Eventually it levels out but at a higher level.
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Ohhh, and has anybody mentioned Grahame Obree and his jam piece in the pocket?
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I am running and swimming as well as cycling (well swimming back at end of August). No weight lost, but slimmer. I think you have to factor in the ageing process. You are running just to stand still etc.
I was Vegan from 1989 to 1992 and weighed about nine and a half stone, despite eating a lot and drinking a lot (not the sort of vegan to check if my beer had been filtered through ising glass finings e.g. Guinness, well we did opt for Beamish during it's brief appearance on this island). I also had the lowest cholesterol in the Scottish Prison Service HQ staff. I was young but dairy free, animal free , egg free, honey free diet did make me skinny. I did exercise then but I do more now.
Porridge at 8 am will keep you going til noon. But porridge at 6 am keeps you going til 10 am. further porridge at 10 am will get you through til late lunch? does look like breakfast at work is the answer. Quaker do satchels of porridge for microwave? I prefer co-op oats which I have switched to from Scott's Old fashioned as they cook more quickly. Sachets not satchels
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I do other things for 6 mins as the Scott's oats boil and bubble.
I wish Casio hadn't changed the way their count down timers work.
I have a colleague who uses the sachets in school and my brother in law uses them in his work too.
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I put my breakfast of porridge, salt and honey in a sealed plastic tub with a touch of water the night before. This softens the oats for microwaving. Then before leaving for work top up with milk. In the microwave at work for 3 minutes. Proper porridge, not the sachet crap (the porridge equivalent of a cup-a-soup)
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Tomato cup a soup is quite drinkable and handy when camping.
Would you eat it from a bowl though?
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@numptie - interesting. I have made cranochan by soaking small amount of porridge in cream then once set serving with large amount of raspberries, honey and whisky.
I don't use the sachets, far too dear, but I have watched non porridge eating sassenachs start eating porridge this way.
Most people are either sweet or sour with their oats but you are both? I defend your right to eat your porridge how you like it. Pin head oatmeal you soak overnight, maybe I will look into this?
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@weefoldingbike when camping food does taste better. Ionce came home early from camping as tent leaking and cooked the food I had taken on the camping stove in the flat. Did not taste so good.
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We were camping in Nairn a couple of weeks ago, I was spotted as the cyclist from Airdrie, and I did try to convince the memsahb that out door cooking is good. She got as far as scrambled egg. I'll keep working on her on this issue.
I got a gas adaptor for one of the Trannys. I can now simmer things and not immolate potato scones.
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Memsahib had venison in Nairn. Boys and I did the "Can't afford that, it's dead deer." joke a few times.
She sometimes gets it in Aldi's too.
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Porridge always leaves me *starving* after about an hour. I don't understand it because others swear by it - do different people metabolise oats differently or something? I find a bowl of muesli (with nuts) plus two cups of coffee (with milk and 1 sugar) holds me nicely till lunchtime, despite cycling about 11 miles to get the paper mid-morning.
If you really want to lose weight walking everywhere (and carrying every calorie you eat home) is the best way to shed the pounds. Cycling is more of a maintenance thing. When my bike was broken and I had to walk 20 mins each way to the station I lost several kilos. When we moved up here and bought a car, despite cycling tons more, I put on a stone in about six months.
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Oatcakes are a hunger-stopping portable and palatable form of porridge. Some fat too, but such is the price of making porridge into biscuit.
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Did notice while munching on Oatcakes recently that they have quite a high salt content, so don't eat too many.
As for the sachets of porridge, I think it is the smell more than anything that puts me off.
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I need to lay of the munchies!
Since when did L in normal clothing equate to XXL in cycle clothing? I refuse to buy an XXL garment of any description, pah.
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I make my own cereal bars it's really easy honest.
150grams of cereal (rice krispies, all bran etc)
100grams of oatmeal
50grams of flaxseed75-100 grams of peanut butter
75-100 grams of honey
2 heaped teaspoons brown sugar50-75 grams of fruit
50-75 grams of nuts or seeds chopped small or chucked in food processor1) Mix all your dry ingredients together and set aside
2) In a large pot mix the honey, peanut butter and sugar
3) Heat this until it becomes liquid
4) Pour in your dry mixture
5) Stir this through until all the liquid is absorbed
6) Lay out flat or in balls whatever you prefer
7) Leave to cool and it will set like Rice Krispie SquaresYou could add protein powder to this or any other items such as wheatgerm.
More satisfying and tastier
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Sounds good Bruce. Could that be cooked to make it crunchier and less sticky?
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@Tom
Not sure what baking them would do.
Because of the amount of cereal etc, the stickness is not as bad as it sounds given the amounts. The cereal seems to soak alot of the liquid up and they bind to each other.
I just wrap them in cling film and tuck them into my jersey pocket.Posted 12 years ago # -
Since when did L in normal clothing equate to XXL in cycle clothing?
The joys of vanity sizing, which seems to work in reverse for cyclists for some reason.
See if you can find what you need at ASDA (unlikely) but you'll be an "M" there for sure.
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