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"Are Electric Cars the future of Low Carbon Transport?"
(677 posts)- Started 14 years ago by chdot
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@baldycyclist. You are right for some people. For others it's just highlighted that they only ever used public transport because there was too much congestion for their liking. Their journeys had previously evaporated but can now exist again. A further group of people prioritise three planets medium term risk of survival over short term risk. A final group have no choice but to continue using public transport.
I'm sure there are other groups too.
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Two-thirds of all new cars bought by Norwegians last year were electric. Turns out you just need a government with a clue
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Are electric cars really that green?
Video which focusses on the Volvo report which says CO2 emissions could take 90,000 miles to start to payback over 'ICE' cars.
For EU countries which use greener energy that's closser to 54,000 miles, and if you generate your own renewable energy it's about 29,000 miles>
Volvo can acurately compare because 'ICE' and 'E' XC40's made in same factory with same people/machinary/supplier lines etc. 'E' car comes off the production line with 60% more carbon than 'ICE' cars.
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I've found Volvo's "break even" research intriguing.
If it takes that long to cover the embedded carbon cost of a new electric car relative to a new ICE car, how long will it take to recover carbon cost of replacing an existing ICE car?
Given the embedded carbon horse has already bolted, maintaining and running existing ICE cars are likely to be a better option where possible. Which seems odd, but I suppose makes sense given the sheer tonnage of a new car - all of that mass needs to be manufactured...
Robert
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"Given the embedded carbon horse has already bolted, maintaining and running existing ICE cars are likely to be a better option where possible. "
Counter-intuitive, but inescapably logical.
Reducing car use should probably be the priority over replacement of existing vehicles. That of course doesn't make for automotive industry profits...
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"maintaining and running existing ICE cars are likely to be a better option"
I'd agree, our *10 year old Volvo XC60 has 125,000 miles on it, see no reason to replace it until it gets to 200,000 miles, at which point we'll go electric.
Carbon cost asside, there is a city air quality benefit to E cars.
That said our ICE car is at the end of the 125,000 mile lifespan that Volvo bases it's figures on.
*we've had it 9 of those 10 years.
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The number of publicly available chargers has not grown fast enough to keep up with the soaring number of battery-powered electric cars on British roads, according to the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT), a lobby group. Public charger numbers rose by 82% between 2019 and 2021, but this pales in comparison with the 600% jump in the number of electric cars during the same period.
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IT’S OBVIOUS
Govs MUST pay to benefit the form of transport that pays no VED…
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Felicity Ace, a specialist cargo ship carrying more than 4,000 cars, caught alight near the Azores on Wednesday evening. The vessel’s 22 crew members were evacuated but the fire continued to burn for several days, fuelled by lithium-ion batteries in electric vehicles on board.
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“We are seeing e-bikes being a car killer,” he added. “They increase the range and the frequency of bike riding.”
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Not just Tesla of course. Bosch batteries all add up as well.
The best chance must be to decommission cars - how I'm not sure though. Simply not enough resources to build EVs for all.@JohnLeePetim13 - from Twitter
A single Tesla battery weighing 1,000 pounds requires extracting and processing some 500,000 pounds of materials. At this rate, over the next thirty years we will need to mine more mineral ores than humans have extracted over the last 70,000 years. #GreenEnergy https://t.co/4FXcYHlSFt
He's a retired mining engineer. Some might think he's in alliance with petrochemical industry as he takes apart extractive mining. I just read it that we can't really rebuild an electric copy of a failed petrol model. That's why bikes and active travel can make a real difference as even e-bikes are lighter on planet.
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With the established data from over 20 years car club member surveys we know that replacing private cars (which on average sit idle for 96% of the time) with shared cars, reduces the number of cars required by a factor of as much as 17 to 1
Even conservative estimates suggest a 90% reduction in the number of cars required, where typically a driver switches to use bus or bicycle for trips where these are viable (and MUCH cheaper) alternatives when the standing costs of keeping a car are removed (say £15/day - RAC) from your daily spending and unlimited bus use (typically around £2/day, where you are buying a bus pass - or free for under 22 and over 60)
Blending this in with many deals, through Scot Gov, Universities, NHS, and even housing associations ...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/h52/51878051293/in/datetaken/
It is (in Scotland) increasingly easier to slide out of car ownership and have access to new electric and hydrogen cars, paying only for when you use them, and ditching the hassles of paperwork & maintenance - basically it becomes someone else's problem - and people begin to adjust their lives to living without using a car for every journey
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ditching the hassles of paperwork & maintenance - basically it becomes someone else's problem -
This is one of the best things about being a member of a Car Club, in my view!Posted 2 years ago # -
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How green is switching to an electric car?
The latest ad-hyped products and trending fads promise to make us healthier, happier and greener, but are they really 'the best thing since sliced bread'?
Greg Foot finds out.
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Please tell me these are not on the footway...
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Must say I failed to notice.
Judging by the barriers behind I think they are hard against the kerb.
Given the width of Fettes Av something more intelligent with added cycle lanes would have been possible…
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Changes in cycle design (velomobiles, for example) allow us to increase the efficiency of use of available power in overcoming resistance to movement.
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Electric vehicle sales doubled in key markets last year, as manufacturers ramped up production and consumers embraced new models. But the future of the market this year is looking more uncertain; the war in Ukraine has disrupted key supply chains, and Volkswagen in Germany said earlier this month that it had sold out of electric vehicles for this year for its EU and US markets. Other manufacturers are also struggling with rising costs and looking for alternative sources for components.
Many green campaigners are also concerned that talking about cars is the wrong focus – they say we should be talking about transport. Investment in public transport, making it cheaper or even free, is one of the quickest ways to bring down demand for oil, according to the IEA.
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Didn’t bother to check if these were ‘live’.
Fine addition to the cityscape…
Coming to a street near you??
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I think mr fimm said that there are some new chargers going in on Stewart Terrace.
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