re-opening of paths temporarily closed for tram works

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re-opening of paths temporarily closed for tram works

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Started 12 years ago by chdot
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chdot
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Spokes have received the following dates for planned re-opening -

End of Roseburn path to Roseburn St. End Nov 2012

Water of Leith walkway, east side closure at railway bridge End Dec 2012

Water of Leith walkway, west side closure at railway bridge End Dec 2012

Path from Balgreen Road up to old railway line to Pinkhill End Nov 2012

Path behind the Carricknowe golf course clubhouse along the north side of the tram tracks to a path off Carricknowe Avenue Waiting on a power connection from Scottish Power, so date cannot be confirmed at this time.

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I'm assuming first one is Russell Road zigzag.

Posted 12 years ago #
kaputnik
Moderator

The paths work without lights too... (although preferable with lights, of course, I'd rather it was there and open and not just waiting for lack of a connection to the mains)

Posted 12 years ago #
chdot
Admin

"I'd rather it was there and open and not just waiting for lack of a connection to the mains"

Yes - esp if power is for lights rather than tram!

SP gets blamed for not connecting things up (Duddingston Road West, Broughton Road etc.) - perhaps they deserve it.

Posted 12 years ago #
Kim
Member

The reopening of the cycle paths should be prioritised over the reopening of roads to motor vehicles to provide the City with the greatest economic benefit...

Posted 12 years ago #
Dave
Member

They've opened the ramp that connects the pedestrian crossing on the main road between ASDA and Ocean Terminal, which has changed my commute considerably for the better.

Posted 12 years ago #
kaputnik
Moderator

@Dave - yes, but does it still dump you out into a building site at the lower leve?

Posted 12 years ago #
Dave
Member

Yes, of course. It's got no drainage and pea gravel (or bigger) everywhere. However I can use the pedestrian crossing to halt the traffic on the main road instead of having to make a right turn across multiple lanes at either end of the day = winner.

Posted 12 years ago #
chdot
Admin

At the gardening stage

Posted 12 years ago #
kaputnik
Moderator

Can't recall, but did there used to be a stepped short-cut here for those on foot?

Posted 12 years ago #
chdot
Admin

No

Just a well worn desire line (probably mostly used downhill).

There was a plan for steps instead of ramp as tram takes up some of the room required for a DDA Act compliant gradient - which is why there is now a longer double hairpin ramp.

Posted 12 years ago #
Dave
Member

Triple hairpin, surely? They've added two more onto the one original...

Posted 12 years ago #
chdot
Admin

True

Posted 12 years ago #
Nelly
Member

I might shed a wee tear when these paths are all back to 'normal' again - I mean they are great for honing your bike handling skills what with all the tescos trollies, signs, rubble, rocks etc to negotiate - and thats not even mentioning the street lights from Makro to Edinburgh Park station which are heading into their 3rd (yep, count em) year of non-operation - when I reported them, i did mention that a woman had been assaulted in the underpass a year or so ago, and that perhaps it was a safety issue - clearly not that important then.....)

Posted 12 years ago #
chdot
Admin

'normal'

quite

Posted 12 years ago #
kaputnik
Moderator

There was a tar spreader trying to negotiate the triple hairpin slalom course this morning. Looked like the workies were having to manhandle the thing.

Posted 12 years ago #
Bigjack
Member

It's a pity that the reopening of this critical link has taken so long especially given that the main road has been open for a few months now.Typical "it's only for cyclists and pedestrians attitude" PS Has anyone else noticed that when there are roadworks near a Pelicon crossing the Pelicon crossing always gets switched off so pedestrians just have to fend for themselves? ie keep the cars moving at all costs

Posted 12 years ago #
DaveC
Member

This is so true at N St Davids st. The council have resurfaced it and jut closed the road half at a time with no facilities for people crossing from George st to St Andrew Sq. We had to walk to Sainsburys to cross back. The bus stop is on Queen Street.

Posted 12 years ago #
Claggy Cog
Member

@DaveC the whole of St Andrew's Sq has been a stramash for some considerable time and the lights outside the Portrait Gallery off Dublin St to get into the square have been a laugh in terms of length of time to change, I am betting that one forumeister could have grown a couple of millimetres if not centimetres on his beard in the time that they take to change. Getting from Princes St to Queen Street has been a dawdle and so user friendly. So not. I hate being a pedestrian in the centre of Embra, if you think we cyclists have it bad, talk about mindless planning...

Posted 12 years ago #
neddie
Member

It doesn't look like there's a hope in hecks chance of the Path from Balgreen Road up to the old railway line to Pinkhill opening by the End Nov 2012.

Still construction works everywhere, gravel roads where there should be paths, etc.

Posted 11 years ago #
BikeFan
Member

End of Roseburn path to Roseburn St. End Nov 2012
(I'm assuming first one is Russell Road zigzag.)

Scraped that one in by the skin of their teeth. Passing Friday afternoon I forgot to notice, but returning along Russell Road about 11pm it looks open for business.

Posted 11 years ago #
stiltskin
Member

Yes, the Russell Road zigzag definitely open.. At last. Well salted too.

Posted 11 years ago #
Focus
Member

"Yes, the Russell Road zigzag definitely open.. At last."

It's been a long summer! (As anyone who remembers the wording on the signs which mysteriously disappeared around August/September will know).

Posted 11 years ago #
kaputnik
Moderator

I rode down the zigzag last night. No way to do it but take it slowly. I rode up the Morrison Link slalom a few minutes later. Russell Road ain't brilliant, but it's far better than that.

Posted 11 years ago #
LaidBack
Member

Russell Road Ramp Fest by LaidBackBikes, on Flickr

Got round to riding the ramp at last. We took a Helios and of course it will go round albeit by using the whole radius of the path at each turn. The Helios is of course a short tandem - something longer would just run out of path.

We were right behind a chap who uses a handcycle. He made the turn (just) on the first corners only to be partially defeated by the final one. His front wheel was actually on the last centimetre of path on the others. On the last one he was going to go off path so we waited while he put it into reverse (with gravity!).
The zig zags also mean longer bikes end up on the wrong side which makes the corner for other riders even tighter. Basically one big expensive conflict zone with poor functionality. Didn't see any steps to allow walkers to avoid the bikes and corners.

So... a wasted opportunity and will no doubt degrade unless the land has been stabilised expertly. The under bridge path is still rubbish.

Despite that we enjoyed nice 'summer' weather and were please to see a few out on two wheels and three (saw another handcycle wheelchair at Cramond)

Posted 11 years ago #
SRD
Moderator

Agree with lb that it could have been better designed, but we've done it a few times with tandem and tandem and trailer combo w/out any difficulties. Just very relieved not t have to negotiate airport road etc.

The diversion signs are all still up. Ay idea who to 'remind' to take them down?

Posted 11 years ago #
EddieD
Member

I'm also a wee bitty underwhelmed - the old path was easy even when I was on the bent, this new, switchback path, is steeper, and tighter from the Russell road side - but it does now give good access from Balbirnie Place

Posted 11 years ago #
neddie
Member

Campaign for a pedestrian/cycle bridge over the railway, and a continuation of the off-road (Roseburn) path to Gorgie and the canal anyone?

Posted 11 years ago #
SRD
Moderator

It's one of the option for ATAP (active travel action plan), which commits the council to connect NEPN to the canal within the next couple of years. They are wary of the cost, however. It's not impossible, but (sadly) unlikely.

I'd be up for a campaign though!

Posted 11 years ago #
chdot
Admin

"I'd be up for a campaign though!"

Don't think there is ANY chance while tram on Roseburn Corridor is a *possibility*.

There was a bridge planned between Devon Place and Duff Street - but that was 'too expensive' 20 years ago.

Meanwhile in Cambridge -

http://www.cyclestreets.net/location/11518

Inside -

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The Tony Carter bridge is a covered cycle bridge over the railway just north of Cambridge railway station opened in 1989. It was listed at the time in the Guinness Book of Records as the world's longest covered cycle bridge. It is named after a Labour councillor of the era.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bridges_in_Cambridge#Other_bridges

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The £2 million project is sometimes criticized, but is generally beloved by the community.

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http://architecturerevived.blogspot.co.uk/2009/08/carter-bridge-cambridge-uk.html

Posted 11 years ago #
chdot
Admin

Bridge at Haymarket when it was still in use -

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete.php?id=37273

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