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  1. chdot
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    Extra staff will have to sit in on test runs to ensure members of the Edinburgh public do not attempt to board the vehicles, The Scotsman has learned.

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    http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/transport/edinburgh-trams-staff-keep-public-off-test-trams-1-2991269

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

  3. chdot
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  4. kaputnik
    Moderator

    of course, there's no room to provide wider pavements, or room for cycling. But plenty of room for a car park.

    T.I.E.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

  6. kaputnik
    Moderator

    There's a slight problem in the article in that Lothian Buses, despite it's majority shareholder being CEC, is not a public body. It's a PLC company, technicality yes, but the guy isn't a public sector employee.

    Not that I'm supporting his outrageous salary, but the comparison to public sector workers alone is marginally flawed.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

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    Dear Stakeholders,

    The Leith Programme - email update 25 - 12 July 2013

    Drop-in Event, Tuesday 23 July, Nelson Hall, McDonald Road Library, 2:00-8:00pm

    A drop-in event will be held in the McDonald Road Library on Tuesday 23rd July from 2:00-8:00pm so that local stakeholders can view the proposed designs and street layout for the Foot of the Walk to Pilrig Street and the Pilrig Street to Picardy Place sections of Leith Walk. These plans are getting close to being finalised after a detailed consultation and design process and we are keen to talk to local people and businesses regarding all aspects of the proposals.

    As the construction work is being undertaken in a phased manner, with the Foot of the Walk to Pilrig Street section commencing first, we are aiming to have a finalised draft design for this section ready by the beginning of August in order to allow us to proceed with the required Traffic Regulation Order (TRO) process prior to the work starting. We will also be displaying the Pilrig Street to Picardy Place section at the same time to allow local stakeholders the opportunity to comment on the emerging design for this section.

    Council Officers will be in attendance to discuss these most up to date designs for the Leith Programme and hope to hear your feedback on them, in particular, aspects of the proposals such as parking provision and the location of domestic waste bins.

    We look forward to a wide range of people attending and providing their views so please let other local people and businesses know about the event.

    If you have any queries then please don't hesitate to contact me.

    Regards
    Alan

    "

    Posted 11 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin


    Edinburgh looking futuristically European

    Covered seating for six.

    This is the 'interchange' for the bus station and the closest stop to Waverley.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

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    Problems on Shandwick Place have dealt a blow to any hopes of having trams running by Christmas

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-trams-contractors-admit-concrete-blunder-1-3038204

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. custard
    Member

    What gets me is all the construction issues
    what happens when it eventually goes live?
    you would expect some snagging on a project this large
    However given its history,I would expect loads!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. kaputnik
    Moderator

    The "snagging" will be when the first tram gets stuck going around one of the sharp corners and they have to rip it all out and rebuild it. I would have thought they would have been pushing guage-testing bodies through tight sections or something by now.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  12. Tulyar
    Member

    Compared to the work-rate one sees during a possession on the national rail network, the speed of progress on the tram is like watching continental drift bringing the adjacent tectonic plate a bit closer.

    Plain track can be laid at around 2Km per day!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  13. cb
    Member

    James Naughtie : "the most embarrassing public transport project in Europe"

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/what-s-on/cheap-and-nasty-edinburgh-doesn-t-deserve-fringe-1-3042771

    Also : "Historically-minded visitors will gaze along Princes Street trying to remember when it had some style and a little grace. That was long ago, before its facade was ripped apart and reassembled in a jumble of cheap and mostly nasty shopfronts unworthy of their place at the heart of one of Europe’s greatest cities"

    I think he has a house in the south side.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    I think it's Morningside somewhere.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  15. AKen
    Member

    Princes Street may not have the elegance it once did, but we should be eternally grateful that it's been dug up to put a tram line in rather than to implement some of the horrific plans the road lobby had for Edinburgh. This one is far from the worst but it's the only one I have to hand:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/sixtiesedinburgh/8103735874/in/photostream

    Posted 11 years ago #
  16. cb
    Member

    "I think it's Morningside somewhere. "

    I think you can see it from your window. Haven't actually seen him yet though.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  17. Morningsider
    Member

    The trams are not the most embarrassing public transport project in Europe, there are far worse, e.g. Ciudad Real airport (cost 1.1bn euro) only operated for three years (2010-2012) and seems to have been built to enrich the builders at the Spanish taxpayers expense.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  18. EddieD
    Member

    Walking home last night, I saw two chaps with mallets and chisels outside the Caledonian, painstakingly flaking the cement off the tracks - they said that the entire length to Haymarket had to be done manually, otherwise they'd have to relay the track.

    The mind boggles.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  19. Dangerous
    Member

    Original public estimate was from early June:

    150m of track which would take 4 weeks

    At the beginning of July I knew this was false.

    They had dug up most of the on-street track (excluding Princes Street) and were nowhere near finished.

    Last weeks figures were:

    500m of track and the work would take 17 weeks.

    What percentage of (on-street) track was laid right first time ? 5% ? Hugely embarassing

    Posted 11 years ago #
  20. chdot
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  21. chdot
    Admin

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    Each stop will be served by a tram every seven-and-a-half minutes from Monday to Friday during peak hours.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-trams-ticket-inspectors-excessive-1-3050905

    Posted 11 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

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    The extension is due to open late next year, with the eight-mile long tram route to be running before then.

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    http://m.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-trams-new-plaza-at-airport-revealed-1-3078685

    Posted 11 years ago #
  23. kaputnik
    Moderator

    The extension is due to open late next year, with the eight-mile long tram route to be running before then.


    What sort of weather-denying morons do we have in this country who design and build a tram stop 100m from the airport entrance and don't even provide a covered walkway?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    "What sort of weather-denying morons do we have in this country"

    The ones that think the tram is about style not passengers -


    Shelter

    Posted 11 years ago #
  25. Nelly
    Member

    The shelters have sides on them now, they were installed at edinburgh park station a few weeks ago.

    Its clear now (even to the EEN who were beside themselves) why the tram stop is 100 yds from the terminal, and i imagine that a temporary covered walkway will be installed (as it has been for every other peice of airport infra during build phase.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  26. kaputnik
    Moderator

    @Nelly you're not suggesting that the artists impressions for the Trams might not quite represent reality are you? I'm still coming to terms with there actually being overhead lines on the finished [sic] article

    Posted 11 years ago #
  27. Nelly
    Member

    Trying to have a "positive" day, as camping weekend canned due to crappy weather!

    Ok, ok, back to my usual pessimism - no danger the sides at edin park will keep off horizontal rain in feb.

    .......and relax!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  28. I sent a tweet asking the West Team to find out when Edinburgh Trams will get round to finishing the crossing near Ed Park Station that gets you on to the cyclepath that's been closed-off now for years. They've responded to say they've passed the question on.

    The constructors have built the crossings to the tram stop down near Macro that won't be used by man nor beast for quite a while yet, but have bypassed the crossing that hundreds of cyclists would use every day.

    It's almost as if it was deliberate.... ;-)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  29. kaputnik
    Moderator

    @Three

    yes all those bits of path not adopted by Cooncil yet so all questions have to be answered by Trams dept.

    I see they've corrected the signage at the other end of path which suggested South Gyle in the wrong direction.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  30. gembo
    Member

    I think it is all looking pretty good.

    I am going to suggest that as a thank you to council workers for doing their job Lothain Bus and Tram offer a free raffle and the winner gets a year's complimentary travel on the tram. Heck, let's widen it to every citizen in Edinburgh

    Further I am going to suggest we all get one free ticket.

    we are all going to love it, we have to as we will be paying for it for many decades. Might as well start resolving our cognitive dissonance early by learning to like it.

    I raced car drivers from my office in town centre to murrayfield the other day and won easily, even on my three speed. But if they had hopped on a tram They would have beaten me.

    Posted 11 years ago #

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