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Saw a cyclist off on the tram tracks on Princes Street on Saturday. They were turning right to go past Jenners & up to St Andrew Square. The first cyclist of the two made the turn, the second got their wheel stuck in the rails and did not.
I wondered if they were visitors who'd come up from Waverley. Does anyone know, if you get off a train at Waverley, and go up to Princes St and go left and then right, would you see one of those yellow signs warning about the tram tracks?
Haymarket through to Shandwick Place to reopen next month.
My commuting route will take me through Haymarket junction. I'm going to have a very close look at the layout before attempting it on a bike. I want to plan out the best positioning, especially heading east from West Maitland Street to get to Torphichen Street
It looks like a disaster waiting to happen with tram lines crossing over. Add in all the new traffic lights and general confusion and the first few days will be interesting to say the least.
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TRAMWORKS will be cleared from the streets of the Capital in less than five weeks – paving the way for the line to be open for test runs on Princes Street before Christmas.
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Oh great. Santa trams.
TRAMWORKS will be cleared from the streets of the Capital in less than five weeks – paving the way for the line to be open for test runs on Princes Street before Christmas.
I'm quite excited by this. TBH, a couple of years ago, I was predicting the city would go bust and no trams would ever run.
Glad I'm proven wrong.
Transport for Edinburgh will eventually be responsible for introducing cycling and walking routes into the network, but will concentrate solely on trams and buses in the first year...
Hmmm
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
"Is that a good thing or a bad thing?"
I think it's a completely unknown thing!
Though it could be bad unless Lothian Buses takes a broader view -
http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=9687&page=10#post-125063
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Transport convener Lesley Hinds said: “I understand there will be frustration for people but there are 246 tests to be carried out on each tram.”
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(That's without passengers.)
TRAMWORKS will be cleared from the streets of the Capital in less than five weeks – paving the way for the line to be open for test runs on Princes Street before Christmas.
They have to get the trams running asap, because they've put the wire up now and there's probably a risk someone'll nick it.
Looks like the usual speculative rubbish from EEN. In any case, I'm sure the Airlink service will simply up their fares to match the tram.
@Arellcat - the wire should be pretty safe as long as they keep it electrified to 750V
I'm sure the Airlink service will simply up their fares to match the tram
Airlink is run by LB and I'm pretty sure it will be withdrawn on the first day of tram operation. (it's both cheaper and faster than the tram, therefore tram requires a monopoly to be an attractive alternative)
Spotted this morning - it looks like they were starting to put in the cycle lane markings on the newly laid section, west of Haymarket station (parallel to the temporary taxi rank).
Lots of horrible plasticky fumes and what looks like a red coating being applied to the left hand side of the lane.
Hard to see what was going on. But hopefully it will be clearer tomorrow.
(it's both cheaper and faster than the tram, therefore tram requires a monopoly to be an attractive alternative)
Not for me - I'd take the tram over the bus.
Airlink is run by LB and I'm pretty sure it will be withdrawn on the first day of tram operation. (it's both cheaper and faster than the tram, therefore tram requires a monopoly to be an attractive alternative)
Apparently (I read it somewhere, forget where now) Airlink will still operate (at reduced frequency?) because it serves areas (eg. Corstorphine) that the tram does not. I presume they'll whack the fares up though.
The current 22 service will presumably be axed, although maybe not, because the tram won't be going down to Leith anytime soon. Maybe they'll stop the 35 calling at the airport, though again it goes to places the tram doesn't.
Apparently (I read it somewhere, forget where now) Airlink will still operate (at reduced frequency?) because it serves areas (eg. Corstorphine) that the tram does not. I presume they'll whack the fares up though.
It also serves Waverley Station, which the tram doesn't quite manage. Keeping the service on with a reduced frequency would appear sensible, even without hiking the fares. Knowing there will be a tram within the next 10 minutes or so may be worth the premium over having to wait maybe 20-30 minutes for a bus.
it's both cheaper and faster than the tram, therefore tram requires a monopoly to be an attractive alternative
The bus isn't going to be sufficiently faster than the bus to make a real difference to anyone. If you've spent 3 hrs travelling from Rome, are you going to be bothered about getting into town five minutes quicker? (I also have doubts about how fast the buses actually are during the rush hours.)
Any news on whether bikes can be taken on the tram. If this is definitely confirmed, should we not all start becoming pro tram (ahead of the general population). Nice to be ahead of the tipping point so we can all say I told you so when we all learn to love it.?
I'd take the tram over the bus.
So would I. Anything to get away from the lurching and the stop-start nature of road traffic and the vibration from the big old Cummins diesel.
I actually saw a tram moving yesterday, on the route just west of Gogar depot.
I like trams.
I hate the time and money that has been spent on this particular tram system; the upheaval it has meant around the city; and the lack of consideration for non-motorised traffic and pedestrians.
"High-speed trams warning signs hit the streets"
http://www.citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=11272&replies=1#post-126909
And with a handy reminder to cross tracks at right-angles!
And a handy reminder that "trams cannot swerve out of the way of obstacles".
Slow clap of the day.
Next week I'd better start looking before crossing the newly-opened ped & cycle crossing up by Ed Park station.
I'll also need to keep reminding myself "not to touch the live overhead power lines along the stretch, which will carry a potentially lethal charge of 750 volts needed to power the route". Sound advice there from Edinburgh Trams, as it's something I'm always tempted to do.....
the first time they will come into contact with traffic and pedestrians.
Let's hope not.
Reminds me of the first time I ever saw a tram: it was Prague and the tram had a car wrapped round the front of it.
(And the crash had blocked the roads for both cars and trams.)
carry a potentially lethal charge of 750 volts needed to power the route
you don't measure charge in volts...
750 volts seems quite low, but maybe in each tram there are multiple electric motors each using 750 volts
750 or 1500V are the two main standards for overhead-line powered trams/light rail in UK (and wider). 600V or 750V DC are used for 3rd-rail systems.
Manchester, Midland Metro, Nottingham, Sheffield Supertram and Croydon Tramlink all run at 750V.
And yes there are motors all along the vehicle, 12 110hp motors in all. That's 80kW power installed in each tram, for a finger-tingling 1,280A current drawn down the pantograph at maximum power. (If my schoolboy physics and maths are still in order)
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