Saw the 12.05 leaving from the top of broughton street this afternoon, looked cool
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Spotted my first proper tram yesterday going across the big curvy bridge at Edinburgh park station. Does look kind of nice gliding silently along.
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Staff within Copymade grabbed a camera and snapped the scene, and proprietor Grant McKeeman said: “It didn’t take long did it? The first day of proper running during the day and it only took an ambulance to stop on tracks for 15 minutes for the buses to be backed up into the West End.”
I see Mr McKeeman's direct priority line to the tram desk at the Chipwrapper is still in operation.
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Saw a moving tram on St Andrew Square this morning. "Ding... ding..." it said. I smiled.
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The Fat Controller (the "stout gentleman") remembered Toby immediately and arranged for him to come to Sodor.[8] Toby arrives with his coach, Henrietta, and became a friend of Thomas after Toby rings his bell and frightens the policeman.[16]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toby_the_Tram_Engine#Toby_in_The_Railway_Series
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Have they been going about stealing garden sheds with it?
edit: That is a really interesting site, I've already spent a solid half hour looking through obscure railway locomotives.
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They were styled to look like brake vans.
"When running on public roads, the J70s had to meet the same Board of Trade regulations as the Y6s, and were fitted with cow-catchers, warning bells, spark arrestors, governors set to 8mph, and protective side skirts over the wheels and motion. "
I think those same BoT regulations should apply to tipper lorries in towns.
@Allebong, make sure you taken in the W1 "Hush Hush" and the U1 "Garrat" sections.
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Hmm. Live tram finally spotted. Noisier than I was expecting, which is good. I'll need to have a poke around on their website for some sort of signalling specification, to work out what was going on on Shandwick Place's pedestrian crossing: Tram went past it west-east. Tram stopped, clear of pedestrian crossing, presumably due to signal at Queensferry St junction. Tram barely fitted with only one other vehicle at the head of the crossing, so tram will presumably frequently block pedestrian crossing when other vehicles prevent it from fitting into spaces seemingly designed to be exactly one tram long. Tram-signal on pole at pedestrian crossing changed from whatever it was to a sort of diamond then to a horizontal line. 3*(Pedestrian presses crossing button. Red ring around crossing button lights up. Red ring around crossing button deactivates.) Crossing eventually gets the message that the tram is past and the red light stays on after a fourth button-press, shortly leading to a pedestrian green.
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Tram signals;
White dot - stop, unless it is not safe to do so
Horizontal white bar - stop
Vertical white bar - go ahead
Diagnonal white bar - go either left/right, depending on which way the junction points and which way the bar points.Tram stop lines are a white brace, but only appear on parts of the route where there are no other road vehicles sharing.
Tram speed limits are in white diamonds.
From the relevant diagrams;
"Drivers of other vehicles must give way to trams
at level crossings without barriers, gates or road traffic light signals."Posted 10 years ago # -
"Live tram finally spotted"
Ditto
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Shortly after that tram I came across this one -
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Distant spot of two trams passing each other on Princes St. A double decker seems small in comparison. Think I did read they were an XL size of tram!
The bell noise keeps making me think of the Christmas fair. Mrs LB says her office can hear them all day at Haymarket.
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"I see Mr McKeeman's direct priority line to the tram desk at the Chipwrapper is still in operation"
Yes and how correct he is - I mean, if an ambulance is required to stop the traffic in a life and death situation - which this may well have been - Mr McKeeman is entirely right, we should let someone die and then blame the Tram (not the ambulance, oddly???).
He really is a prize plum with no grip on reality.
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I had my first spot of a fully moving tram this morning, followed immediately by my first spot of a cyclist drafting a tram!
Eastbound at West Maitland Street, I was in the queue to turn right and the tram ding-dinged its way past. Cyclist in close pursuit on the tram track thus skipping all the traffic. I don't know when he got to the lights if he followed the tram straight on or ducked into the ASL to go right.
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Re: Drafting trams: Do trams have brake lights?
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@Laidback yes ISTR they're the longest trams around, longer than normal trams. Which meant that all the spare ones couldn't be sold to anyone as they were weird and non-standard.
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Edinburgh Tram;
Length 43m
Weight 56t
Passengers 248 - 78 (seated) 170 (standing)Manchester Tram;
Length 28.5m
Weight 40t
Passengers ~206 - ~60 (seated) 146 (standing)Sheffield Tram;
Length 35m
Weight 46.5t
Passengers 241 - 86 (seated) 155 (standing)So for all its 19% length advantage on the Sheffield Tram, the Edinburgh tram manages to carry 7 (3%) more passengers, 8 less of whom get a seat!
Not that impressive really. Perhaps they are conveyed in much more spleandour.
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Apparently, very shortly after the fully moving tram was fully moving, it caused a massive tram jam.
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The space utilisation densities are interesting. The Manchester tram carries 7.23 pax per metre, while Edinburgh carries 5.76. Sheffied is middling at 6.89.
Manchester's standing/seated ratio packs them in at 2.43:1 while Edinburgh's is 2.18:1. Yet Sheffield's is ostensibly the most luxurious at 1.80:1.
Perhaps Edinburgh's trams have the most luggage capacity (thus lost pax area), given that they will serve the airport, and Manchester's the least.
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Oops, I missed this story being posted above yesterday!
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@Min
Not really a story. More a non-story. It's a pre-prepared tram bash.
There was no "massive traffic jam"
The article uses "raises jam fears"
The picture shows no traffic jam and that the stationary tram is not blocking the route via Torphichen place and Morrison Street.
But why let facts spoil your story.
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Did anyone who went inside the plywood mock-up when it was parked on Princes Street notice the size of the luggage shelves?
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@Stickman
I saw the drafter too.
Fairly sure they RLJ'd (Traffic lights were RED, Tram had a proceed signal) and went right along Torphichen Street.
Definitely risky as difficult to cross Tram tracks at a safe angle at speed AND how could he see that there was not another tram approaching
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I'm sure I've seen Edinburgh trams moving in different combinations i.e. more cars per tram. Did I just imagine this?
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The Manchester trams get up to what feels like 100 pax per square metre at rush hour or when United or City are playing at home... Think London Tube or those Japanese trains where people are employed to stand on the platform and squish more passengers in. Guess it shows they are popular, or that the alternatives are seen as worse. They have zero luggage space, wonder if they will do a redesign once the tram line gets out to the airport. Double trams run fairly often at peak times.
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@AKen
Sorry - Yes.
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I'm sure I've seen Edinburgh trams moving in different combinations i.e. more cars per tram. Did I just imagine this?
As far as I know they are a fixed consist and would have to be disassembled and rebuilt to allow this. So you may indeed have imagined.Posted 10 years ago # -
Sound of a barrel bottom being scraped.
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