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  1. wingpig
    Member

    "...in its bag..."

    Next: in a bag, sufficient to provide protection against bike-upholstery oil-transfer but translucent enough to not even slightly disguise the contents?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    "
    The following items may NOT be taken onto the Company’s buses:

    a) any weapon or explosive or any article which is dangerous, offensive or excessively cumbersome

    b) bicycles other than folding bicycles which are folded and fully enclosed in a suitable carrying bag

    "

    http://www.lothianbuses.com/conditions-of-carriage

    I presume that covers the tram until the 'bike trial' in 6 months.

    I believe people have taken unwrapped Bromptons on LB buses.

    BUT in addition drivers have 'discretion' AND they are the only staff person on board...

    So it's probably down to "suitable".

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. twinspark
    Member

    On LRT buses, never had an issue with the Brompton in its bag (or more technically under its cover!). This includes the fact that the cover is unzipped slightly to carry by the saddle. The driver on the number 11 on more than 1 occasion was patient enough to let me do this or fold number 2 son's scooter and put it in its protective bag when the bus arrived at the stop a bit quicker than I was expecting (or more likely we were a little late!).

    But going back to the trams. Are we saying that a racing bike wouldn't be allowed, however if you had it in a hard protective box (having taken it off your flight from the airport?!) would? As indeed huge luggage trunks (quarter the size of a London police box as I witnessed once at an airport) would be allowed as well? It must all be down to the likeliehood of impalement / getting oil on people?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Never mind bikes, surely the question everyone wants to know the answer to is "can you get a washing machine home on it?"

    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. tammytroot
    Member

    BTW I have been refused to take my Brompton on an LB bus due to not having the bag with me. It was early on a Sunday and the driver was obviously grumpy. I just raced the bus to the train station.
    Needless to say I won.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  6. Morningsider
    Member

    kaputnik - as long as the revenue protection officer is agreeable and it doesn't cause an obstruction, then the tram conditions of carriage allow for washing machines to be transported on a tram, see Section 8:

    http://edinburghtrams.com/information/conditions-of-carriage

    Folding bikes, enclosed in a "suitable carrying bag" are allowed - as long as there is luggage space. Full sized bikes are not allowed, although the conditions of carriage make it clear that this might change in future.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

  8. chdot
    Admin

    "

    David Hembrow (@DavidHembrow)
    02/06/2014 07:28
    Edinburgh's new tram system. A snip at £1600 per resident

    http://gu.com/p/3pyd9

    Cycling often thought too expensive

    http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/search/label/tooexpensive

    "

    Posted 10 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Edinburgh trams: 40,000 tickets sold in first weekend

    "

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-27663458

    Posted 10 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    Not bad for first weekend.

    Was ear wiggins (sir Bradley ear wiggins, predictive spelling) at top of broughton st older couple had walked twenty minutes or fifteen dependent on whether wife or husband was estimating to catch a tram I am guessing from corstorphine. I found this hopeful, if people will change their behaviour and not expect a door to door experience as the norm, but you know I love trams.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  11. davey2wheels
    Member

    I tried to race the tram on my way east tonight from the rail bridge to the Balgreen stop. I came second but arrived just in time to see someone wheel their full size bike onto the tram. The doors closed and the tram moved off immediately after so I assume they got at least to the next stop.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

  13. MV
    Member

    Noise polution! No squeaking brakes and wheels but tannoys.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-27679436

    Posted 10 years ago #
  14. kaputnik
    Moderator

    but you know I love trams.
    Trambo.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Mr Varadkar said: “Breaking a red light is one of the most dangerous things any motorist can do, and driving through a red light at a Luas junction is both irresponsible and stupid. There have been 13 incidents between motorists and trams this year, and one loss of life.

    "

    http://www.rte.ie/news/touch//2014/0604/621496-luas

    Posted 10 years ago #
  16. steveo
    Member

    Boo, in all but one it stops before we get to see the damage interaction with a tram will do to the stupid.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  17. crowriver
    Member

    Two wee snippets of tram news:

    Girl hit by Edinburgh tram on Princes Street in first week of service

    (Apparently uninjured)

    and

    Edinburgh Trams @EdinburghTrams
    27,000 of you took got on our trams yesterday. Thanks to everyone who has got involved. #tramsarego

    Posted 10 years ago #
  18. AKen
    Member

    Decided to take public transport this morning as I didn't fancy a repeat of yesterday's downpour drenching. I was surprised by how busy the tram I took was, even at the tail end of the rush-hour. Can't be many people just out for a joy-ride on a wet weekday morning.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    Crucial thing is how many are 'new' (and therefore paying) rather than just transferring from buses.

    Seems there might actually be a greater shift from cars than the tram people expected - which would be good. Greater scope for reallocating road space...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  20. PS
    Member

    Greater scope for reallocating road space...

    ...[whisper it] away from buses as well if punters are actually transferring from bus to tram.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  21. douglaswaring
    Member

    Tram raced to Gyle by rickshaw, beaten.

    Facebook link

    Posted 10 years ago #
  22. mgj
    Member

    Went over the tram line in the wet for the first time today after turning right at Waverley Bridge onto Princes Street (unusual route for me as I'd been at the Fringe Programme launch). Couldnt have hit it more straight and yet rear wheel lost traction and skidded to the right; pest of a taxi driver too close behind so glad I didnt come off. They were fine in the dry the only other times I have gone over them.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Public tram inquiry announced

    "

    http:/:edinburgh.stv.tv/118480

    Posted 10 years ago #
  24. PS
    Member

    Tram raced to Gyle by rickshaw, beaten.

    Ideal. So, replace taxis with rickshaws - solve pollution issues and taxi driver high blood pressure concerns in one fell swoop.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  25. On Saturday night I 'Strava'd'my tram ride from Haymarket to Edinburgh Park and back.

    Heading west I was 'PR's' and KOM's aplenty.

    Eastwards, not a sausage, not even in the top 3 PT's on any segment.

    The tram was doing a fair lick both ways.

    My analysis is that into the wind, the tram will kick my butt, with the wind, even a wee fatty on a single speed is faster than a tram :-)

    Posted 10 years ago #
  26. calmac
    Member

    There are stretches of that where the tram does 70kph, but 25kph at others and obviously it has fairly long stops.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  27. steveo
    Member

    My analysis is that into the wind, the tram will kick my butt, with the wind, even a wee fatty on a single speed is faster than a tram :-)

    All the more reason we should be allowed to take our bikes on board.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  28. AKen
    Member

    Heading west I was 'PR's' and KOM's aplenty.

    Eastwards, not a sausage, not even in the top 3 PT's on any segment.

    I wish I knew what that meant.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    "I wish I knew what that meant."

    Do you?...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin


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