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Posted 9 years ago #
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Interesting stuff from the BBC:
Lawyers warn of cyclists' tram risk
Wonder if spokes keeps a tally of cases, but the suggestion is way more incidents than the council acknowledges.
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Georgie Keate (@georgiekeate)
28/05/2015 12:00
Hi @CyclingEdin, could you retweet - looking for cyclists in Edinburgh who have had accidents on the city's tram lines."
https://twitter.com/georgiekeate/status/603878629232246785
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Reporter for The Times in Scotland. *All I think about are metaphors and cats* TS. Email: georgie.keate@thetimes.co.uk.
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"Ticket revenue was three per cent higher than the £7.949m target set for the tram, but the service was still expected to make a loss of almost £1.3m this year."
In unrelated news, bus ticket revenue decreased by £7.95m...
I'm joking, but doesn't the economic case for trams need to take reduced bus ticket sales
into consideration?(Actual number of tickets sold, as the latest inflation-busting increase in ticket prices will skew the £ numbers.)
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"doesn't the economic case for trams need to take reduced bus ticket sales into consideration?"
Yes!
There was smoke and mirrors around the 'tram income' - particularly with over 60s concessions.
Presume after a year of operation they are prepared to release full info(?)
I'm sure the tram has added journeys - and 'new' people, but if the former already have season tickets that's no extra revenue, if new people are occasional users, not much extra income.
Have the number of buses/routes decreased at all because of the tram running?
Whether extending the line to Leith is 'worth' it depends on the cost of installation - trams and track already paid for - and whether it 'creates' extra paying customers and/or reduces bus costs by reducing routes/frequencies.
OR trams (and buses) could be considered to be a proper public service and funded differently...
Of course it would help if The City was serious about encouraging more PT use (and cycling) AND reducing private car use.
Things like 'temporary' reopening of George Street and 'harmonising' bus lane times come to mind as 'contradictory' signals!
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Oh I love the tram cake, most excellent!
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Have the number of buses/routes decreased at all because of the tram running?
We were asking this same question over the table at PY this morning and couldn't think that they had (at least not connected to the tram, see also the Auchendinny #theonlybusinthevillagegate).Posted 9 years ago # -
I know of one bus route which was curtailed. The number 20 from Ratho used to go into town. Now it just goes as far as the Gyle/Edinburgh Park. Anyone wanting to go further is expected to change to the tram.
That's just a route I happen to know about; I don't know how many others were affected.
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cc: are you thinking of the 12 out to Ratho? It was great for getting to/from the Bridge Inn for a nice meal and a drink. I wonder if they've lost much business from people who can't be bothered with a tram/bus change to get back to town.
I think that it was one of the specially subsidised services, as it wasn't busy enough to justify the trip all the way out to Ratho. The council withdrew the subsidy.
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I wonder if they will publish figures on the number of people who purchase a ticket but don't travel.
Most likely caused by having to buy two singles in order to pay by card.
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Ratio bus service long ago was a wee buzzer bus that went to wester hailes centre and you changed. Then for a while it had its own bus and now it is back to the no 20 with the change. All still probably subsidised as not used much.
Bridge inn is good. Well worth cycling out to on canal path of a sunny summer evening.
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For a while Ratho used to be very well served by the 48/X48 service extended from Gogarburn, which made it very quick and easy to get into town along the A8/Glasgow Road etc.
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5 million passengers in a year. Slightly over the expected number. I was chatting to someone yesterday whose friend was suing them I think as part of the class action after he fell off when the bike got stuck in the track. Is this sort of accident less common than where people take a skite from crossing at too shallow an angle? Or is that what happens, you cross too shallow and the wheel goes into the track? Is it worse in the rain?
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"I was chatting to someone yesterday whose friend was suing them I think as part of the class action after he fell off when the bike got stuck in the track. Is this sort of accident less common than where people take a skite from crossing at too shallow an angle?"
It happened to me in St Andrew's Square around Christmas 2013. I saw the tracks, steered my front wheel away from the gap... and got my rear wheel stuck.
Fortunately, the road was closed due to roadworks, so (A) I was going slowly, and (B) there was no traffic.
I didn't fall. I just got off and pulled my bike out.
So it can certainly happen if you're going parallel to the tracks and try to cross them.
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"It seems to me that we have a political consensus that it is only sensible to extend the tram system to build a broader network,” he said. “Only then will the tram achieve its potential.”
This month we will find out if that can be done in a cost-effective way. The city already owns the rails and other equipment to build the line, as well as the fleet of trams to run it – nine out of the 27 vehicles currently living at the Gogar depot are rotated into regular use, but aren’t actually currently needed.That doesn’t mean construction would be plain sailing. The latest cost estimate for taking the tram to Newhaven is £80m – but that figure dates back almost a decade, so it should be treated with the right level of scepticism. Remarkably, despite the upheaval of the utilities diversion on Leith Walk, more pipes will need to be diverted, and it isn’t clear whether the city has a complete audit of where everything sits beneath the Leith Walk roadway.
In addition, Edinburgh City Council has spent £9.1m to put Leith Walk right after years of damaging tram works that drove businesses to the brink – and several of them right over the edge. Council leaders promised that the work would be “tram-proofed”, but that hasn’t happened, and much of what has already been completed will need to be torn up.
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Following a successful test period during May, the Edinburgh Trams bike trial will be extended for a further month until the end of June.
So far, an average of 10 bikes have been taken on board daily. York Place has shown to be the most popular boarding point with almost a third of recorded journeys starting there.
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During the extended trial passengers can take their bikes on board between 0500 - 0730 then from 0930 - 1600 and 1830 - 2300 Monday to Friday and all day Saturday and Sunday with the exception of 18 - 23 June due to the Highland Show at The Ingliston Showground and Foo Fighters concert at BT Murrayfield.
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https://edinburghtrams.com/news/edinburgh-trams-extend-bike-trial
Posted 9 years ago # -
Chdot what's the URL of the 'Slide' clip you posted on YouTube, taken at Haymarket, where rider loses rear wheel and recovers it?
ADMIN EDIT
This one?
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I took my bike onboard the tram this morning, after I ran out of time to ride the seven or eight miles across town to Leith. The tram helped compensate for all the time I later lost sitting at red traffic lights on Commercial Street.
The tram ticket inspector said I was supposed to put my bike in the area with the double doors - the bay for disabled people, presumably? - but I didn't know, and wheeled the bike on in the rearmost door in order to not be in anyone's way.
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I saw a cyclist waiting for a Tram at Shandwick Place this morning. If that was you Arellcat, a belated "Hello!"
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"The tram ticket inspector said I was supposed to put my bike in the area with the double doors - the bay for disabled people"
Is this it??
https://twitter.com/edinburghtrams/status/612933167721381888
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Edinburgh Trams (@EdinburghTrams)
26/06/2015 08:10
Join the Edinburgh Trams team. We are looking for trainee tram drivers. bit.ly/1QiGOqmhttp://pic.twitter.com/rarbcfJDse
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Career move for Gembo??
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Is this it??
Not my bike, and at any rate I put my bike across the way, leaning against the driver's compartment. I took a photo and everything.
Posted 9 years ago # -
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EDINBURGH Trams will become the first light rail network in the UK to welcome bikes on board, after transport bosses said a two-month trial would be made permanent.
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Posted 9 years ago # -
Those trams are great
Posted 9 years ago # -
"Those trams are great"
So you keep saying.
Why don't you get one to work every day?
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