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  1. cosmok
    Member

    So these performance stats, how do they chime with my not-at-all-objective observations that any time I see a tram its hardly got anybody on it?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. stiltskin
    Member

    Selective perception?
    During the day the tram isn't goiong to be full to capacity. During the rush-hour it is pretty busy with folk.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. Klaxon
    Member

    Tram tonight, got on 7pm at the airport

    Probably about a dozen of us (and we're worth 3 normal passengers in revenue)

    No seats left with personal space after Balgreen, though there were a few if you needed to sit down. Quite a number standing.

    Usual tail off Haymarket onwards. 12 of us from the same tram crossed to Picardy Pl from the York Place stop - I could count because of the long wait at the lights to cross.

    It seemed to me it had very healthy levels of patronage for an off peak journey. Princes St is the end of the line - it's a bad shop window for onlookers who are trying to see 'if it's busy' - you're far better observing at Haymarket Yards and Bankhead

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. AKen
    Member

    For about six months a couple of years ago, I got the tram home from work, travelling from Saughton to Haymarket. I don't think I ever got a seat in the evening rush hour.

    I think the frequency has doubled since then so individual trams may be quieter but the numbers carried greater.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. steveo
    Member

    Only time I ever get a seat on the drat thing is the last tram home from the pub.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. Ed1
    Member

    On a tram just told Bikes have to face in the direction of travel on the tram not the side but front pointing in direction of travel which ever side bike on. No hardship but did wonder why?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. Frenchy
    Member

    No hardship but did wonder why?

    Having them parallel with the tram makes sense I suppose, so that you're less likely to block anybody.

    Facing the front rather than the back? Not a clue.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

  9. chdot
    Admin

    "

    T2 director Danny Boyle has claimed Edinburgh council chiefs begged him to include the trams in the Trainspotting sequel.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/danny-boyle-why-we-used-trams-in-trainspotting-1-4358415

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. Rosie
    Member

    @chdot - I think Mr Boyle was joking.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    It's all PR.

    (Or AltNews)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. PS
    Member

    The tram in T2 is a convenient and effective device to tell the audience that Edinburgh has changed in the time Renton has been away. I suspect Danny Boyle was smart enough to work that out on his own. ;-)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    "

    DEVELOPERS behind proposals to regenerate Granton with a marina, 2000 homes and a hotel have been told to amend the plans because of a potential conflict with the tram extension.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/warning-of-potential-clash-between-tram-extension-and-granton-marina-development-1-4359820

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    "

    AN e-mail which is set to be a key piece of evidence at the inquiry into Edinburgh’s tram fiasco suggests council officials may have kept politicians in the dark at the height of the controversy over the project.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/exclusive-tram-email-suggests-politicians-kept-in-the-dark-1-4380448

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. Klaxon
    Member

    The tram stop location at the airport makes a lot more sense to me now, the master plan for the next 15 years is a shift in the 'middle' of the airport to where the new security hall is with international arrivals moving to beside domestic baggage reclaim - there is already a temporary immigration hall in place.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. Stickman
    Member

    There's a house beside the Pinkhill path near the tram stop which for years had has an old Lothian Buses sign on its shed. Tonight I noticed that there is now another shed/summer house built to look like a tram in the back garden. Made me smile anyway.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  17. cb
    Member

    "
    A forgotten former tram depot for Edinburgh’s original tram system in Edinburgh is to be knocked down and replaced with old shipping containers for artists to work in.
    "

    http://www.scotsman.com/heritage/artists-to-take-over-site-of-former-tram-depot-in-leith-1-4387634

    Posted 7 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

  19. chdot
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  20. chdot
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  21. chdot
    Admin

    "

    EXTENDING the Capital’s tram route will only go ahead if conditions are met, the SNP warns in its council election manifesto launched today.

    The party says it will not progress the plans to take the line down Leith Walk and on to Newhaven without an assurance the project will be properly managed, disruption will be kept to an absolute minimum and small and independent businesses will be supported throughout the works.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-manifesto-gives-tram-extension-green-light-1-4415848

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. dougal
    Member

    Is "disruption kept to an absolute minimum" code for "don't close the roads"?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. acsimpson
    Member

    I see they have now changed the headline to
    SNP sets conditions for giving OK to tram extension

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. barnton-to-town
    Member

    How refreshing that a party fighting the local elections does so on local issues.

    The tories seem to be turning it into a pre-referendum anti-referendum vote .... where's their 'mandate' to do that?

    Maybe @RuthDavidsonMSP could explain ... but she's (REMARKABLY!) gone on radio silence just now. Who'd ever have thought that could happen? Wonder why ... has the Tory Branch Office been told to keep schtum about national matters, for fear of her losing her "politician of the year" (based on one, negative, policy) title?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Manchester Metrolink tram network halted by systems failure

    "

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39916615

    Posted 7 years ago #
  26. Tulyar
    Member

    Anyone monitoring the cracks and joint seals sunken/failed on the track slabs between Haymarket and Waverley Bridge (and the serious sinking of valve chamber covers where the Mound traffic crosses Princes Street (westbound carriageway) position likely to cause serious loss of control if you hit at any speed.

    In particular there are 20cm wide strips where a crack opens across the slab and then chunks of concrete have come out, or the tarmac sinks to leave a serious ridge (6mm is limit - more than that will cause serious loss of control if you clip it at an angle)

    One critical area with cracks and repairs is turn into St David Street. Hole is potentially in line with path one might take around the corner.

    https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4157/34426729476_d3506320e5_c.jpg (Cracked & patched - missing concrete too)

    https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4169/33658185103_0e9ca92134_b.jpg (sunken edge abutting track slab)

    https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4187/33658183203_f8b0dcc015_b.jpg (St David St junction crack with missing concrete & tarmac patch, & hole/ridge at side of slab also)

    https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4162/33658180683_2637da35f6_b.jpg (the road and manholes abutting the track slab keep sinking and than have to be repaired/patched)

    https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4169/34426730676_d2ec86da3f_c.jpg (one of several cracked 'strips' at Haymarket with missing bits of concrete)

    https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3724/32809526244_44094a8762_c.jpg (Another one - not a joint on Shandwick Place)

    https://farm1.staticflickr.com/598/32809534084_a726f27ff8_c.jpg (This was repaired less than 6 months earlier - and now its sinking again (W Maitland St/Atholl Place))

    Posted 7 years ago #
  27. jonty
    Member

    There were some overnight closures of Princes Street scheduled recently, apparently for work on the tram tracks - related?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    "

    the Evening News understands Scottish ministers have vetoed using any of the cash for a tram extension.

    Councillors are due to decide soon on whether to go ahead with an extension down Leith Walk and on to Newhaven, last estimated at £162 million.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/city-deal-won-t-pay-for-162m-edinburgh-tram-extension-1-4460704

    Posted 7 years ago #
  29. Morningsider
    Member

    chdot - I particularly like this quote from the Tory group leader:

    "The Edinburgh public would not forgive us if they saw us throw money at something on the basis it would make the route profitable in the long-term. It has to make sense in terms of the capital costs."

    Bonkers!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    "It has to make sense in terms of the capital costs"

    How does that work??

    Posted 7 years ago #

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