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  • Started 11 years ago by chdot
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  1. jonty
    Member

    I clicked on one of the new tram project's first tweets expecting to see loads of anti-tram abuse but was surprised to find only one reply, complaining that they weren't building the trams all the way to Granton. Sometimes you really can't win!

    Posted 4 years ago #
  2. davecykl
    Member

    I only found out that there actually was a new @TramStoneWhaven (hehe) Twitter account as someone else had forwarded a tweet (I haven't seen it mentioned by @EdinburghTrams themselves, oddly), so possibly most of the antis haven't found it yet (although there have been a few more grumbles since)?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  3. wingpig
    Member

    Constitution St quiet even for a Sunday:

    Posted 4 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    Just putting this here to see how it compares with future realities (my bold) -

    Beginning 2019

    Queen Charlotte Street to Constitution Place - Autumn 2019 (November 15 start date) to Autumn 2020.

    Foot of the Walk to Coatfield Lane - Autumn 2019 (November 15 start date) to Spring 2021.

    London Road to Manderston Street - Enabling works Autumn 2019 (start date November 18) to Spring 2020. Main works Spring 2020 to Autumn 2021.

    Beginning 2020

    Ocean Drive - Spring 2020 to Autumn 2020

    Melrose Drive to Newhaven - Spring 2020 to Summer 2021

    Rennie’s Isle to Ocean Terminal - Summer 2020 to Spring 2021

    Beginning 2021

    Tower Place to Rennie’s Isle - Spring 2021 to Autumn 2021

    Ocean Drive to Melrose Drive - Summer 2021 to Autumn 2021

    Picardy Place to London Road - Spring 2021 to Spring 2022

    Coatfield Lane to Queen Charlotte Street - Spring 2021 to Summer 2022

    Melrose Drive - Autumn 2021 to Spring 2022

    Manderston Street to Foot of the Walk - Autumn 2021 to Summer 2022

    Constitution Place to Tower Place - Autumn 2021 to Summer 2022

    Picardy Place to York Place - Winter 2021/2022 to Summer 2022

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/traffic-and-travel/when-each-section-edinburghs-new-tram-extension-will-be-built-697464

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

  6. LaidBack
    Member

    New Finnish PM Sanna Marin as chairperson of the City Council of Tampere in 2017.
    This city first proposed a tramway in 1907.

    The video is extremely amusing as colourful opponents of the tram dredge up reasons not to build it.


      "Even the Siberian Flying Squirrel thanks us for not building the tram."

    Posted 4 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

  8. davecykl
    Member

    "Reminder: notification of works on Lindsay Road from tomorrow. To allow us to identify the location of utilities we will carry out two trial trenches in the area. This will mean a reduction to a single lane of traffic, controlled by temporary traffic lights."

    - https://twitter.com/TramstoNewhaven/status/1206286942326919175

    Their tweet shows a graphical mockup of the Newhaven tram stop next to Sandpiper Drive, yet the Oct 2019 plans have truncated the line and moved the stop much further east. I have asked for answers:

    "Why do the revised published plans show that the Newhaven tram stop would be located not where shown in this mockup, but ~200 m further east and well short of the Sandpiper Dr junction? Which is actually correct?"

    - https://twitter.com/davecykl/status/1206324932390608896

    Posted 4 years ago #
  9. CycleAlex
    Member

    Replied on Twitter but to add, I don't really think it's bad thing. Without the extra public realm, the stop would be moved by ~60m.

    With the public realm, it's moved by ~125m but that allows for seating/trees/extra cycle parking.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

  11. acsimpson
    Member

    Full liability for the tram test cases lies with the council. I wonder if they will now do something about the death trap they created.

    https://www.cyclelawscotland.co.uk/why-choose-us/case-law/tram-tracks/test-cases/

    Posted 4 years ago #
  12. Roibeard
    Member

    Robert

    Posted 4 years ago #
  13. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Do the test cases cover claims after the dogleg was painted at Haymarket and so-called 'improvements' at junctions along Princes St?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  14. Stickman
    Member

    @Murun: No.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    Edinburgh’s controversial trams were responsible for more than 30 cyclists falling off their bikes in 2019, new figures have revealed.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-tram-designs-criticised-after-new-figures-show-number-cyclists-who-fell-their-bikes-last-year-due-tracks-1887427

    Posted 4 years ago #
  16. jonty
    Member

    I have a lot of time for the current administration but I find the appeal for 'patience' completely offensive. They didn't even bother doing anything until someone died!

    Posted 4 years ago #
  17. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Lesley Macinnes said people should be patient and wait for the tram “to become part of the environment”.

    What's it part of at the minute? Hyperspace?

    If thirty people a year presented at A&E having overturned their cars on the tram lines there would be a public enquiry and remedial action.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  18. Rosie
    Member

    I would have guessed more than 30 in a year. I take it that's from Council stats of reported incidents?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  19. CocoShepherd
    Member

    Regretting reading the comments at the bottom of that article.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  20. LivM
    Member

    Does someone have (/could someone create) a photoshopped image of tram tracks as wide and as deep as car tyres (i.e. to show a car driver what it feels like for a cyclist to face a hole in the road as wide as their tyre and deep enough to get stuck in it) so that anyone on Twitter who says "cyclists just need to learn how to cycle properly" could get this image in response - "how do you fancy driving when you have a hole in the road as wide as your wheel?"

    Posted 4 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

  22. chdot
    Admin

  23. chdot
    Admin

    Work on taking the line from York place down Leith Walk and on to Newhaven was halted at the end of March when the lockdown was imposed.

    Construction cannot start again until phase two of the government’s timetable for lifting restrictions, but site preparation can get under way.

    The preparation of construction sites and project offices will see infection control stations being set up, along with additional water stations and toilet facilities for workers. Workspaces and facilities will also be checked to ensure they are set up appropriately.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/preparations-resumption-edinburghs-tram-extension-work-will-start-monday-2868903

    Posted 3 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

  25. mgj
    Member

    Surely there can now be no business case for the trams in the post Covid world. Think what that budget could pay for in active travel for Edinburgh

    Posted 3 years ago #
  26. CycleAlex
    Member

    Some rather questionable tram/cycle design that's part of a tram extension in the West Midlands: https://twitter.com/midlandtram/status/1266340774855282688?s=20

    Posted 3 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

  28. neddie
    Member

    The question is, will they connect the new 2-way cycle lane in a safe and meaningful way to the new gyratory hellscape thingy?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  29. CycleAlex
    Member

    The original TM plans only showed the cycle lane going as far as the extents of the tram works in this phase (just north of the London Road roundabout) - I imagine that won't have changed.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin


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