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  1. Arellcat
    Moderator

    The thing is, the WGH was never served by railways: it didn't even make the transition from poorhouse to hospital until nearly 1930. It is where it is because you built poorhouses in faraway lands to keep one's city's fine upstanding citizens from mingling accidentally with the great unwashed, and Craigleith Station was a sufficiently long walk away. Replacing a railway with a walking and cycling path and replacing that with trams-to-WGH doesn't make the location any closer. Public transport has to serve trip generating locations as physically closely as possible.

    The NGH had a small station; while the EGH also found its situation because of its poorhouse history, it too didn't have a rail connection, but did have trams along Seafield Road.

    Posted 10 months ago #

  2. chdot
    Admin

    CURRENTLY discussing tram future routes at TEC.

    Various mentions of Strategic Transport Projects Review 2 (https://www.transport.gov.scot/our-approach/strategy/strategic-transport-projects-review-2/)

    Route Broxburn mentioned, also to Shawfair.

    STR2 partly about “cross boundary” - presumably with policies for funding.

    Posted 10 months ago #

  3. LaidBack
    Member

    https://news.stv.tv/east-central/bike-lane-that-makes-edinburgh-look-moronic-set-to-be-fixed-in-leith-trams-snagging

    Posted 10 months ago #

  4. chdot
    Admin

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    Ms Ross said work to address defects discovered during construction, including the new cycling infrastructure on Leith Walk, will be completed over the next five weeks.

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    Let’s be charitable and say the 5 weeks starts on Monday.

    Finished by 21st of July…

    Posted 10 months ago #

  5. chdot
    Admin

    https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2023/06/taking-a-tram-to-the-highland-show-heres-what-you-need-to-know/

    Posted 10 months ago #

  6. chdot
    Admin

    “

    We are delighted to be named ‘Operator of the Year’ during the Scottish Transport Awards last night!

    Thank you to our colleagues for their continuous hard work that has made this happen.

    #STA2023

    “

    https://twitter.com/edinburghtrams/status/1672182076756443138?

    Posted 10 months ago #

  7. the canuck
    Member

    Dumb question, but how many operators are there in Scottish transport? Is this public transport only? or all transport?

    Posted 10 months ago #

  8. Frenchy
    Member

    They won "Public Transport Operator of the Year".

    The other shortlisted operators (from here) were:
    ▪ McGill’s (won in 2022)
    ▪ First Bus Scotland
    ▪ Lothian Buses
    ▪ Strathclyde Partnership for Transport
    ▪ Scottish Citylink Coaches Ltd

    Posted 10 months ago #

  9. Arellcat
    Moderator

    I was invited to the awards as a guest of one of the shortlisted organisations in another category, but had to decline because work and because deadlines. :(

    Posted 10 months ago #

  10. chdot
    Admin

    ‘How to use the tram’

    https://twitter.com/edinburghtrams/status/1673223064505442306

    Posted 10 months ago #

  11. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    Wow, just wow. If the worst happens, CEC & Trams to Newhaven should up for corporate manslaughter.

    https://twitter.com/edtiss/status/1673000860983369730

    "This video emphasises just how dangerous the Foot of the Walk is to cyclists. Disaster averted in this case due to alert cyclists and an observant Lothian buses driver."

    Posted 10 months ago #

  12. chdot
    Admin

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    Edinburgh tram report 'still with publishers' nine weeks on

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-66044849

    Posted 10 months ago #

  13. chdot
    Admin

    “

    Customer information

    Please note this account is now only being used to communicate public realm works around Leith, Ocean Terminal, and Newhaven.

    For service updates and general information about trams, please follow @edinburghtrams

    “

    https://twitter.com/tramstonewhaven/status/1675414002908958720?

    Posted 10 months ago #

  14. Frenchy
    Member

    [+] Embed the video | Video DownloadGet the Video Player

    Video where two folk race from Newhaven to the airport using the tram and an e-bike. Highlights quite nicely a fair few of the issues with both the tram and cycle networks in Edinburgh.

    Posted 9 months ago #

  15. chdot
    Admin

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    Due to limited space on board, restrictions apply on bringing bikes on the trams throughout August

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    https://edinburghtrams.com/news/bikes-trams-over-summer-festivities

    Posted 9 months ago #

  16. chdot
    Admin

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    New tram route through the Meadows and go-ahead for merger with Lothian Buses

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    https://www.edinburghinquirer.co.uk/p/new-tram-route-through-the-meadows

    Behind pay/free trial wall.

    Posted 7 months ago #

  17. Yodhrin
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    Posted 7 months ago #

  18. chdot
    Admin

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    Edinburgh tram inquiry report: Council and ministers 'principally responsible for failure to deliver project on time and budget'

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    https://archive.ph/zpl3d

    Posted 7 months ago #

  19. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/legal/edinburgh-in-legal-action-over-nine-year-old-tram-14-11-2023/

    Posted 5 months ago #

  20. chdot
    Admin

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-trams-no-trams-between-ocean-terminal-and-newhaven-following-potential-fault-on-overhead-line-4421577

    Posted 5 months ago #

  21. chdot
    Admin

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    Edinburgh trams 'wouldn't have gone ahead if councillors weren't lied to on cost'
    A councillor claimed inaccurate cost estimates led to the disastrous tram project being approved - and said the city was “utterly betrayed" by officers who "lied".

    …

    “Had we known that those pieces of information were not as they were about the fixed cost, we would not have approved the tram – and I can tell you that the tram would not have gone ahead because it would not have gotten through a vote in the council.” Cllr Mowat said the city was “utterly betrayed by those officers”.

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    https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/edinburgh-trams-wouldnt-gone-ahead-28198491

    Posted 5 months ago #

  22. toomanybikes
    Member

    Would cancelling it have been a good thing for the city though? In 20 years if we have two or three more lines, we might be glad it got the system off the ground, as inflation further marginalises the excessive 2014 prices

    Posted 5 months ago #

  23. chdot
    Admin

    “In 20 years if we have two or three more lines, we might be glad it got the system off the ground“

    Problem is ‘experience to date” (with or without deliberate part-truths) makes advocating/implementing more tramlines MORE difficult.

    PLUS ‘financial climate’ AND continuing carcentricity - see Sheriffhall latest.

    Posted 5 months ago #

  24. Yodhrin
    Member

    Eh, that carbrain mentality would have been present regardless, and while some people - Councillor Backside Coverer there included - are still obsessing about The Cost and The Mismanagement etc etc, more and more these days when you speak to actual people who holds that opinion comes down to whether they have or haven't actually used the tram at all, with those that have IME recognizing that for all the faults of its delivery, it was a worthwhile project.

    I'd argue you'd have just as much trouble persuading the antis in a world where there was no "bad example" to point to, since you'd both be also lacking a tangible good example, and would still have people like the councillor there bleating about costs and inefficiency and bureaucracy because at the end of the day there's political advantage in being a negative nelly and "speaking out on behalf of hard-pressed motorists" etc - why would they be any better disposed towards big public transit projects in the current climate than they are towards active travel infra?

    Posted 5 months ago #

  25. chdot
    Admin

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    Hi Nicola After initial testing we have now identified the problem. The components to rectify the issue are on order, Unfortunately, we are unable to put a timescale on the component delivery or the reinstatement of full services.

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    https://twitter.com/edinburghtrams/status/1733144435070824804

    (No trams past Ocean Terminal for last couple of weeks)

    Posted 4 months ago #

  26. acsimpson
    Member

    I thought I was in the climate justice thread when I read this. It wouldn't actual be too it of place there either.

    Posted 4 months ago #

  27. chdot
    Admin

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    We’re committed to achieving the highest safety standards, and this latest initiative builds on the work we’ve already done to make cycling near the tramway as safe as possible.

    This includes highlighting the importance of using the designated crossings and always crossing tramlines at a 90-degree angle to stop the cycle wheels from potentially getting stuck in the rail grooves.

    “

    https://edinburghtrams.com/news/new-tram-safety-campaign-targets-cyclists

    Posted 4 months ago #

  28. Frenchy
    Member

    "always crossing tramlines at a 90-degree angle"

    Posted 4 months ago #

  29. chdot
    Admin

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    I appreciate the sentiment, but this is unhelpful. There are multiple designated "crossings" of tracks that are not at 90 degrees - even after much time, effort and money spent trying to "improve them". And "your lane" frequently has to change around obstructions e.g. stopped bus

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    https://twitter.com/cocteautriplets/status/1734506599362724148

    4 photos

    Posted 4 months ago #

  30. chdot
    Admin

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    @EdinburghTrams @CllrScottArthur @edinhelp would you care to “open” the cycleways on Leith Walk then please?
    6 months now since trams started & getting a bit farcical… see extract from 8th Dec @TramstoNewhaven newsletter email…
    @EdinReporter @SpokesLothian @virginmedia https://twitter.com/edinburghtrams/status/1734484482118275344

    “

    https://twitter.com/johnrobson87/status/1734485951559205025

    Posted 4 months ago #

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