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  1. chdot
    Admin

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    Lesley Riddoch (@LesleyRiddoch)
    04/12/2012 18:41
    Soren Rasmussen tells @Nordichorizons mini snow ploughs clear cycle paths 1st - so 80% Copenhageners cycle all year round. Swoon.

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    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. Darkerside
    Member

    Slight aside.

    Spent two hours over the last two nights trying to arrange the front mudguard around spikey tyres on the Fuego. Clearances are...tight...and there was a constant rubbery clunking noise on rotation.

    Long story short, it turns out if you haven't secured the hub properly in the fork, the dynohub clunks in a manner which sounds *exactly* like rubber hitting plastic.

    I discovered this at half eleven last night, when I removed the guard completely in a bit of a strop and spun the wheel, only to hear the sound continue.

    Doh...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  3. SRD
    Moderator

    Lots of promises via twitter that paths are being 'looked into' and 'actioned'. anyone able to go out at lunchtime and report if anything's changed?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    "only to hear the sound continue"

    !

    That needs a new thread -

    'Things I learned the hard way'

    'Where's that noise coming from?'

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    CCEers at it again -

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    Gordon Hill-Smith (@smudgegs)
    05/12/2012 09:45
    "@SRDEdinburgh: leamington walk (priority 1) ice from one end to the other @AndrewDBurns @LAHinds @south_team @TheBuddster" not good enough!

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    Cllr. Andrew D Burns (@AndrewDBurns)
    05/12/2012 09:55
    @smudgegs @SRDEdinburgh @LAHinds @south_team @TheBuddster Agree. @south_team are actioning now.

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    Sara Dorman (@SRDEdinburgh)
    05/12/2012 09:58
    @AndrewDBurns @smudgegs @LAHinds @south_team @TheBuddster @south_team Good to hear. I crashed there last year. Don't want others to repeat.

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    Steven Hope (@instography)
    05/12/2012 08:30
    @AndrewDBurns @SRDEdinburgh @LAHinds Ta. I know how a priority system works. Knowing paths are far down it doesn't make the ride safer.

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  6. SRD
    Moderator

    " North Team ‏@north_team
    @andrewdburns @SRDEdinburgh we are aware of this and have been promised that they will be done today, thanks"

    Leamington walk and NEPN are the two 'priority 1' routes that I use regularly. Anyone else have others to report? Sadly nothing much seems to happen until you get the Council leader on the case.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

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    North Team (@north_team)
    05/12/2012 10:05
    North cycle paths being gritted today, and will now be given priority status. Sorry for delays.

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    Posted 11 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

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    Cllr. Andrew D Burns (@AndrewDBurns)
    05/12/2012 09:18
    @SRDEdinburgh OK - thanks ... @south_team @north_team can you action please, thanks, Andrew.
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    Sara Dorman (@SRDEdinburgh)
    05/12/2012 10:18
    Thanks for this. There'll be lots of happy folk out there. Next time can we get grit out before the freeze? @north_team @AndrewDBurns

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    Cllr. Andrew D Burns (@AndrewDBurns)
    05/12/2012 10:21
    @SRDEdinburgh @north_team @south_team Sara - I am pursuing that wider (important) point today, Andrew.

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  9. chdot
    Admin

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    Evening News (@edinburghpaper)
    05/12/2012 10:29
    Today's Evening News devotes five pages to a truly shocking exclusive Edinburgh story. Not to be missed

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    Bet it's not about gritting...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. SRD
    Moderator

    Just a reminder - that grit on those paths is coming from our 5% cycling budget. let's make sure it gets out there and that everyone's safer for it.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. Good work folks :)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  12. Arellcat
    Moderator

    Bet it's not about gritting...

    It's probably about parking tickets.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  13. Interesting that one Arellcat - must be about 9 years ago now that I got a ticket for parking on a double yellow (knew I was doing it, thought that a ten minute nip into a flat after 11pm would be okay, learned my lesson!); I'd parked there because I didn't want to double park. I didn't challenge the ticket, but asked if the double parkers were ticketed (as I saw none) and was told in no uncertain terms that double parking was a police matter. I wonder how and why the new guidance got issued at the start of the year.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  14. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I like that they posed him infront of a double-parked white van, looking all glum, then clearly state at the bottom of the article that double parking is illegal. Police should get round there right now and issue him the spot fine, if his issue is that it was issued by the "wrong trousers"

    Posted 11 years ago #
  15. Baldcyclist
    Member

    It may very well be that the paths have been gritted, but the evening before, or in the very early morning. Is it not the case that grit only has a short useful life?

    Read somewhere when we had the last cold spell that main roads are being gritted 5 and 6 times overnight just to keep them open for the morning rush.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  16. SRD
    Moderator

    @Baldcyclist good points, but not the case here.

    If a path has been gritted in the previous 12-24 hours you can tell (esp. if it is grit and salt, rather than just salt). eg if you cycle from MMW (gritted) to LW (ungritted), it is very clear - the surface is different and you can see at least a few bits of grit on one. Even if snow has fallen after gritting, it is a different surface from where no grit applied at all. The paths I have been reporting have clearly had no grit at all.

    Repeated gritting _is_ needed when snow falls heavily, the temp dips below a certain temp and/or when rain washes it away.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  17. crowriver
    Member

    Forecast is for it to get even colder tonight, so expect it to be much icier tomorrow morning.

    I've rested up the Pashley Fold-it for thw winter and will now be using the spikey-tyred Globe hybrid for the commute. I presume the number of cyclists hopping on trains will drop substantially so hopefully no issues with rack spaces...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  18. chdot
    Admin

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    Cycling Edinburgh (@CyclingEdin)
    05/12/2012 10:59
    @AndrewDBurns Well done with paths/gritting perhaps you can investigate Broomhouse Path which is "unadopted" +ungritted http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=8985&page=2#post-92730

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    Cllr. Andrew D Burns (@AndrewDBurns)
    05/12/2012 12:56
    @CyclingEdin An email abt issues like this (to me, or even better, the relevant portfolio politician) wld be v.helpful: http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/821/politics_and_politicians-council_and_councillors/981/executive_committee_conveners/1

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    Can those affected PLEASE take him up on this.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  19. wingpig
    Member

    It's possible that Leamington Walk has been done, albeit extremely parsimoniously... there's the odd spicule of salt visible but barely more than might have fallen off someone's shoe. Paint strip between ped/bike halves still very icy. Section between Argyle Place and Marchmont Road not gritted and very icy. MMW ungritted except between PY and NMW, where grit is present in small hillocks. Pile of grit left at Marchmont Road end of Leamington.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  20. Instography
    Member

    The trouble with email is that it's private. Twitter is public. Much better for accountability and, frankly, shaming.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  21. SRD
    Moderator

    @wingpig thanks for update. This am, I thought there were some 'small spicules' on the main stretch of MMW (eg south of NMW). But agree that MMW continues to have piles of grit from when it was re-gritted Monday, despite being clear.

    Student came off somewhere on MMW this morning. Met her while she was cleaning up. Should have asked her where she offed.

    Anyone else agree that MMW over-gritting is presumably linked to commercial premises there 'paying rates' etc?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  22. Smudge
    Member

    @Insto, no reason not to do both, or report email progress on twitter ;-)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  23. crowriver
    Member

    Anyone else agree that MMW over-gritting is presumably linked to commercial premises there 'paying rates' etc?

    Or possibly it's nowt to do with the Cooncil and the premises are just sending their staff out with a shovel to the grit bin? If I owned a cafe or shop, that's what I'd do...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  24. SRD
    Moderator

    @crowriver, I did consider that. There is a gritter attached to quartermile, which does their area. but pretty sure the heavy and wide sweeps of grit that were distributed on MMW are from a tractor, not the hand-help gritter that is used outside PY etc

    Posted 11 years ago #
  25. Snowy
    Member

    Pile of grit left at Marchmont Road end of Leamington.
    @wingpig That's the trick they pulled last year. An enormous mound of salty grit was left on the grass. It remained there untouched and undistributed for the rest of the winter. It had no effect other than creating a 5 metre zone of dead grass.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  26. SRD
    Moderator

    @wingpig @snowy There's a picture of it on the blog I linked to, also on twitter. Looks better on the ipad than on PC though.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  27. SRD
    Moderator

    Just cycled up to BRuntsfield. paths allpretty slippy, no signs of gritting. but only actual near slide was on turning into viewforth. recovered from that but inched down Mountpelier. Viewforth terrace has patches of ice in mid-lane.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  28. Morningsider
    Member

    SRD - thanks for that. Primary position down main roads for me again tonight. I assume the Council are still "looking into" gritting the Meadows paths. I know it's easy to criticise, but if cycling really was a priority then these paths would be gritted - they are also major walking routes as well, so it's not just a cycling thing.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  29. Aye, main roads from here for me as well - I'll take the Innocent tomorrow as planned and see if it tallies and then concerted "You said you were gritting these as priority one routes" when it turns out none of the cyclepaths have, as yet, been gritted.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  30. SRD
    Moderator

    I'm told that the path was gritted and confirmed by an environmental manager walking the route. go figure. would not have thunk it.

    I still wouldn't cycle it without spikes. Not keen to walk it either.

    Posted 11 years ago #

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