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not resolvedHello lovely people,
One of the things making its way onto my christmas wish list is some waterproof panniers but I'm not sure which to go for.
Are there any recommendations to be had and on the flip side any you would advise avoiding? I'm mightily fed up of having puddles in the bottom of my pannier bags.
I'm particularly interested in single panniers.
Not sure if they come singly, but my Ortliebs are two merry hampers of waterproof win.
I have a single Timbuk2 pannier with shoulder strap, which has held up well. I like the fact that it goes on v. easy - just drop it on the rack. no faffing at all. But I also think it is heavy. The other problem is that I really wanted a pannier that converted into a backback, which timbuk2 does. So the shoulder strap is an improvement on EBC panniers, which just had handles and were a pain to carry, but not really quite qhat I was looking for.
The EBC own brand panniers are perfectly adequate:
http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/products/revolution-adventure-welded-panniers?bct=browse%2faccessories%2fbags
Can carry lots of stuff, keeps the stuff dry, much cheaper than some of the 'prestige' brands, look horrible (but they all do anyway).
Another vote for Ortlieb, waterproof and durable (and can be patched with a puncture repair kit if you do manage to hole one). One handed attach and removal. Not cheap, but I reckon their "roller classic" range are worth it, esp if you can find them in a sale ;-)
Ortliebs are Ortsome. They only come as pairs but are more waterproof than you could possibly imagine and survive years of use and still look as good (when you wash the mud off). And they have a small roll over bit at the top too. Some competitors have a huge section of rolled material which make the pannier huge and cavernous when you try to get anything out of it.
I have a pair of front rollers which I use on the back. They have a carry strap to make it easier to carry when off the bike. The only thing I don't like about them is the annoying netty pocket which is the logical place to keep your keys but which get tangled up with keyrings. This is very minor though and I am sure there are ways round it.
Ortlieb +whatever.
Tough. Waterproof. Flexible. Easy to repair holes with a cheaply available repair kit. Easy to replace the attachment fittings in the unlikely event they are damaged.
Huge range of accessories available from Ortlieb also. Come in a range of colours.
There's a wide range of different designs, but the basic Backrollers (larger) and front rollers (slightly smaller) are perfectly fine. They come in pairs, but can be set up to be used for either side of the bike. Come with a shoulder carry strap that doubles as a closure fitting when the pannier is full to bulging.
Lift right off using the QR system, no faffing about with metal hooks.
Just for some variety, Carradice Super C stuff is UK made and thoroughly waterproof. Some might say it's slightly tougher than Ortlieb as well...
Not as sophisticated - to make a vehicular analogy think land rover defender as opposed to bmw.
To clarify, I am not in any way suggesting that Ortlieb users are like the stereotypical bmw driver.
Ortlieb are more VW than BMW. Ubiquitous enough to be called the Volkspannier?
I looked at them when buying panniers, but significant cost compared to Ortlieb put me off, as did lack of colour options and I liked that the Cordura fabric of Ortliebs is wipe clean.
The bike they've chosen to attach the Super Cs to on the wiggle site amused me;
Very much your traditional touring wheelset and integrated carbon seatpost!
Back City Rollers... Shang a lang...
I certainly see more of them around than Carradice. I wasn't sure if VW conveyed a swish enough feeling - Ortlieb's quick release stuff is very pleasant.
I use Carradice Super C and haven't yet seen them leak. There'a school of thought that damp stuff hermetically sealed in an Ortleib will stay damp, while the cotton Carradice will allow them to dry gradually. I've never used them for a long enough period to test that.
I don't know about all that wipe clean malarky. Stains and road grime are a badge of use aren't they?
I don't know about all that wipe clean malarky
Yes, but a massive seagull s****?
I picked up a couple of ex-demo waterproof red panniers recently (don't quite match, different year's models I think) for use on the tandem, because it often seems to rain when we go out on it! They're branded Outeredge, and the newer one looks identical to the Revolution panniers posted above. In fact I'm sure it's exactly the same pannier, just with different branding. The newer one has a shoulder strap which I find very useful.
I can verify they are entirely waterproof, sturdy, and they hold 23 litres each which equates to quite a lot of shopping, kids gear, etc. The only bit I'm less impressed with is the pannier hook system, but I suppose that could be changed for something like Carradice's system (which is excellent), Rixen Kaul (like the Revolution ones) or Altura hooks which are readily avaialable.
I've seen them for as little as £26 each, though as mine were ex-demo I got them for a lot less. Perfectly serviceable as "poor man's Ortliebs".
or bike bins for a different slant
I'd love a set of those Super C panniers but they are a tad pricey, even second hand. I know, having been outbid several times...
We have been given laptop at work (used to be windows over citrix) and I am hoping to be bought an office bag plus instead of the usual laptop bag. I've coverted another mans Ortleib panniers for sometime, but never managed to get any of my own.
Q) Do they come in pairs or singley?
Ortlebs come singly, but be prepared for your pocket to take a hit. For a laptop you may want to consider a Carradice Bike Bureau instead? About the same price as a large Ortlieb...
EDIT: Here's a bargain on the older model of Carradice... I picked up an identical one, worth every penny.
Oh no, I have (just) been given approval to buy one through work, so it will cost me Nothing!!
I've had my Ortliebs for 20 years and they're still doing what they're supposed to.The attachment/detachment system is the best and the adjustability of the clips is great, being tool-less as well.
Awesome, thanks for the advice friends. Hopefully Santa will be good to me :P
Hopefully Santa will be good to me
Failing that, email a link to this page to Mr Frozt, with message title "THESE ONES PLEASE THANKS"
Altura Night Vision Pannier has so far survived all that this summer and autumn has had to throw at it:
http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/products/altura-night-vision-pannier
Fits nicely on the side of your rack. If 20L is too big, I also have a 7L one that fits nicely on the top of your rack, Altura Night Vision Rack Pack:
So far, no water leakage on either.
I opted for the Altura Orkneys(56L). Needed them for a cycling trip last spring. Keep everything bone dry and can take a good bit of abuse. Also you can get a fair amount of shopping in them too.
Altura panniers are good. I have a pair of Arrans which have lasted over a decade, still going strong. They keep most rain out, but I purchased some yellow rain covers for them last year to cope with the persistent downpours we seem to get in the "summer" nowadays.
I have a Knog Dry Dog bag - Klik-fix fittings & it comes with a shoulder strap when being carried off the bike. It is pretty waterproof (fully tested in Dumfries and Galloway) but the top flap has now cracked along the seams so I can't in all honesty recommend it (this after 2 years). It's still waterproof because there's an inner liner that rolls down and clips shut but it annoys me because it wasn't cheap. So a bit of a non-recommendation there.
In fact that's the second piece of Knog kit I've had which has crapped out on me after not much more than a year, the other one being a light. It's a shame because their stuff looks and feels really solid and high quality and is nicely designed and usable but it just doesn't seem to last.
Out of interest, was the 56L Orkneys a pair of 28L pannier bags, or was one bag 56L?
Orkneys are 56L per pair, approx 28L per bag
Just spotted this thread...
I'm another +1 for Ortlieb. I've got a pair of the Hi Viz back rollers and they are both cavernous and waterproof. The plastic is thick and doesn't look in any danger to rip.
I like the fastening and quick release - I can get them off one handed.
I'll admit that when I searched Edinburgh & Ortlieb on t'nternet back in the summer, I found this link on CCE from a couple of years ago that was still honoured no questions asked when I put in my order (£90 the pair).
The Bike Chain - Ortlieb Offer
A win-win-win for me, CCE and LBS.
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