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Murrayfield - Saughtonhall: Water of Leith Path Resurfacing

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  • Started 11 years ago by Radgeworks
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  1. Radgeworks
    Member

    Hi Folks
    thought i should mention to all, that yesterday the cooncil took it upon themselves to resurface the muddy potholed water of leith path from Murrayfield to the Viaduct at Saughtonhall/Balgreen.
    I discovered this at around 4.30pm, they used a mixed aggregate kind of filler, it has some rather big grey stones in it, i suspect that these subsequently gave me multiple slow punctures to the rear wheel,which of course i only noticed on leaving the flat this morning, and then had to endure LRT ride to work.
    I hope the walkers and pets have smoothed and compacted it by now. There are also some big divots cut along the base of the fence if your heading TO Roseburn Park,so do take care. R

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    "yesterday"

    Ah, I discovered it then too!


    Patched

    Posted 11 years ago #
  3. Radgeworks
    Member

    Aye sorry aboot the delay anaw, ahm a very busy man at times.... (as ye can tell nae doubt fi ma posts timeline etc... )
    Guid photo CHDOT, thanks for the illustration.

    Regards

    Ronnie

    Posted 11 years ago #
  4. BenN
    Member

    Ever the sucker for punishment, I cycled down here last night after reading your comments (would normally take the parallel road) and was absolutely amazed that in any lexicon this can be considered an 'improvement' - so now instead of puddles we have often unavoidable piles of stones so large they throw your tyres off course. I even passed a mother who was struggling to get her pushchair over the 'repair'!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Cycling Edinburgh (@CyclingEdin)
    28/02/2013 14:16
    @west_team "amazed that in any lexicon this can be considered an 'improvement'

    citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.…

    #Cycling #Edinburgh #ActiveTravel

    "
    "

    west_team (@west_team)
    28/02/2013 14:27
    @CyclingEdin Hi I have passed this on to the cycle team in Core Roads to have a look at in more detail^S

    "

    Posted 11 years ago #
  6. minimoth
    Member

    Glad this has been highlighted. Went this way last night, I think I've managed to avoid a slow puncture but it was not a pleasant ride. Completely unavoidable and a difficult as the large stones send you off course and are thrown up hitting your ankles (ouch!).

    I assume it will improve over the next few days ........... until it gets washed away down the gulleys they have helpfully dug next to them.

    Sorry CEC this is not an improvement.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    "
    west_team (@west_team)
    01/03/2013 11:13
    @CyclingEdin Hi The Natural Heritage Service appointed The Conservation Volunteers to carry out some remedial repairs to this section

    west_team (@west_team)
    01/03/2013 11:13
    @CyclingEdin and this task is not yet fully completed as a compacting plate will be used next week to smooth/ compact the areas^S

    "

    Posted 11 years ago #
  8. Radgeworks
    Member

    Ah so not even a clowncil job then,
    Do pardon my ignorance, i suppose it begs the question why not the clowncil?? Using volunteers smacks of much cheapness, as evidenced by the user experience of said path. And we have gotta wait a week for this to get finished now. But i suppose you get what you pay (or not) for.

    Regards

    R

    Posted 11 years ago #
  9. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Through work we've done some of these conservation volunteer days, up at Braid Valley Park and on the Canal Towpath. However we always did as much work as we could do in a day - dig out affecte areas, lay the aggregate, lay the whindust and then compact. That we you leave behind a safe and servicable path surface.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. Rabid Hamster
    Member

    Should have been 'plated' the same day it was infilled, even if only to tamp down the Type 1 that is filling the holes, otherwise it will all start flicking out again fairly quickly as traffic passes over it!
    Not a good repair, but a hole filler at least!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. Radgeworks
    Member

    I am in favour of filling holes right enough LOL R

    Posted 11 years ago #
  12. Arellcat
    Moderator

    But i suppose you get what you pay (or not) for.

    Even if you employ a contractor, sometimes things will still go wrong:


    Collateral damage on Flickr

    Posted 11 years ago #
  13. Radgeworks
    Member

    Was along this again today, very slightly better but still no sae guid as they say, less bumpy at best, will keep an eye oot for improvements..
    R

    Posted 11 years ago #
  14. Focus
    Member

    Much as I hate the world being tarmacced to death, it's surely about time this route was just given a proper surface. With the amount of flooding that occurs, a decent, properly draining surface would save on regular repairs being needed.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    "Much as I hate the world being tarmacced to death, it's surely about time this route was just given a proper surface."

    Agreed (both bits).

    Posted 11 years ago #
  16. Arellcat
    Moderator

    I cycled along the Murrayfield path after work today, mainly to have a look while thinking to myself, partly naïvely, partly conceitedly, that I'd have the ability to manoeuvre around all the filled-in bits.

    Put it this way: I've seen railway ballast that used smaller rocks. And I think I preferred the potholes.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  17. gembo
    Member

    Yes arellcat, I too thought potholes were better

    Posted 11 years ago #
  18. neddie
    Member

    Looks like that path may be getting completely replaced as part of new 'flood defences'. There was an exhibition for locals this evening.

    It will be rebuilt several metres away from the current path and will be approx 2.5 metres wide. It will have street lighting also.

    Unfortunately the surface will remain as whin dust. Maybe it's time to pressure councillors into surfacing the path properly i.e. with Tarmac?

    To see the plans, email flood.prevention.phase2@edinburgh.gov.uk

    Posted 9 years ago #
  19. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I seem to recall Sustrans were pushing for something called "bitmac" as a surface; a compromise somewhere inbetween a fine aggregate and a sealed tarmac.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  20. Arellcat
    Moderator

    You could even have a small contractor outfit called The Bitmac Brothers.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  21. slowcoach
    Member

    Kaputnik: bitmac is the proper name for tarmac (the material), since it is now made with bitumen rather than tar. Not to be confused with Tarmac (the company). Sustrans have recommended another product from Tarmac called Toptrec - which can be a compromise between sealed surfaces and more natural materials. It has been used on parts of the old railway path through Roslin Country Park. It has a fine surface which lasts longer than whin dust, even though it is not as firm as bitmac.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  22. Stickman
    Member

    Would there be any point in lobbying to reopen the well-hidden closed path parallel to Baird Drive as part of this work?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  23. neddie
    Member

    @stickman

    Yes, I'd like to see that path opened too

    Posted 9 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    "reopen"

    Was it ever a path?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  25. neddie
    Member

    Apparently:

    - the path width is specified as 3m wide.
    - the path surface is specified as a buff coloured asphalt.

    Also:

    [the designers] didn’t want to send the message that it was a ‘motorway for cyclists’

    Hmmmm. Not quite sure they're getting this 'cycle network' thing yet...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  26. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Sustrans have recommended another product from Tarmac called Toptrec

    That's the one! Thanks for correcting my foggy mind.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  27. Stickman
    Member

    I'd still like to see Baird Drive remodelled in conjunction with this path upgrade.

    Previously discussed here:

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=14572

    Posted 9 years ago #
  28. acsimpson
    Member

    "[the designers] didn’t want to send the message that it was a ‘motorway for cyclists’

    Hmmmm. Not quite sure they're getting this 'cycle network' thing yet...

    I wonder if they have an example of a motorway for cyclists which they have designed so that we can see the difference...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  29. kaputnik
    Moderator

    The path was shut this morning, looked like tree felling and scrub clearance in process. A couple of larger trees had come down into/across the river.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  30. Dave
    Member

    Ooh, it would be nice if this was done in time for my switch to winter commuting.

    The dirt surface was a bit embarrassing last year (although in fairness, the crap that is left to rot on the NEPN covers me and the bike anyway).

    Fingers crossed it is properly surfaced and not just covered in dry mud like the WoL.

    Posted 9 years ago #

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