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Army sites sell-off opportunity for cycle routes?

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  1. kaputnik
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    Yes I think much of Craigiehall looks like a model 1960s middle class housing estate somewhere in the London commuter belt.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. Arellcat
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    I thought it was interesting that they've only recently finished building a new maximum security fence around Redford Barracks.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. kaputnik
    Moderator

    And Glencorse was recently largely rebuilt. Apparently "do it up then sell it off" is typical MOD practice.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. Jester
    Member

    Usually the painters arriving to spruce the place up is a sign of one of two things: a royal visit or imminent closure.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. Jester
    Member

    Recent report make no mention of a new "super barracks". What we have here is something I've been warning of for some time: the asset stripping of Scotlands future defence capability.

    Any idea of an independent Scotland simply taking over existing facilities in a well ordered and amicable transfer can be put to bed, as those facilities will have been sold off and replaced by housing.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. crowriver
    Member

    Glencorse not scheduled to close for another sixteen years: IF it happens on schedule/at all. Scotland may well be independent by then...

    Redford, on the other hand, scheduled to close in 2022. That's still six years away: a lot could happen in that time.

    Craigiehall only has two years left. So we'll have to get used to the idea of a "desirable residential development" creating a lot more motor traffic on Burnshot Road than at present.....tipper lorry hell starting 2018, then speeding German executive saloon hell afterwards.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. kaputnik
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    Any idea of an independent Scotland simply taking over existing facilities in a well ordered and amicable transfer can be put to bed, as those facilities will have been sold off and replaced by housing.

    It makes it much easier to invade your neighbours if you close down all their military bases first!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. Jester
    Member


    kaputnik

    Any idea of an independent Scotland simply taking over existing facilities in a well ordered and amicable transfer can be put to bed, as those facilities will have been sold off and replaced by housing.

    It makes it much easier to invade your neighbours if you close down all their military bases first!

    Exactly! One of the best reasons for Scotland remaining in NATO is that members countries are bound by treaty NOT to attack fellow members. Worth remembering when your nearest neighbour is an aggressive nuclear armed state!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  9. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Worth remembering that the UK's armed forces ae largely configured for attack rather than defence. Fast jets, aircraft carriers, gargantuan battle tanks and all the rest are for smashing your way into distant lands rather than fending off invaders.

    You'd have to hope that iScotland won't have foreign adventure as a priority in the early days.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. steveo
    Member

    Worth remembering when your nearest neighbour is an aggressive nuclear armed state!

    Yeah, London better remember where they've parked the subs...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. kaputnik
    Moderator

    You'd have to hope that iScotland won't have foreign adventure as a priority in the early days.

    We've unfinished business in Panama to take care of.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    We've unfinished business in Panama to take care of.

    I like the idea of Challenger II tanks being dispatched to wreak revenge on the mosquitoes of Darien.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. kaputnik
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    Ruth Davidson sitting astride the gun barrel waving a can of Deet.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. Jester
    Member

    That's about her limit! Three years in the TA* and she thinks she's a tactical genius! :)

    *I was in for 17 years and clearly am VASTLY more experienced... ;)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. wee folding bike
    Member

    Bovington are re-organisiing their Tigers.

    They look fine without Ruth.

    http://www.tankmuseum.org/year-news/bovnews53673

    If Rosyth is closed what happens to the seven subs?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Looks like we might be needing all the military bases we can muster.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  17. steveo
    Member

    I suggest golf courses, appease the monster perhaps the fiery eye will look else where.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  18. LivM
    Member

    Craigiehall is directly under the final mile or so of the Airport flight path and not a terribly pleasant place for luxury villas, I'd have thought.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  19. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Craigiehall is directly under the final mile or so of the Airport flight path and not a terribly pleasant place for luxury villas, I'd have thought.

    But that hasn't really suppressed the Barnton / Cramond / Cammo property prices...

    If Rosyth is closed what happens to the seven subs?

    Follow the MOD's original plans and just sink them in the outer Forth? We could say it's an artificial reef and try and get some diving tourism going on it.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. chdot
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  21. crowriver
    Member

    "But that hasn't really suppressed the Barnton / Cramond / Cammo property prices..."

    Indeed. Perfect location for air crew hopping onto flights at the nearby airport, I'd have thought.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

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    Former army barracks – including Redford and Craigiehall – are also expected to be targeted following the UK government’s review of its defence estate.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/60-000-new-homes-planned-for-lothians-in-city-deal-1-4303691

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. Fountainbridge
    Member

    So, Craigiehall announced as going to be sold.

    Main access to Craigiehall via Burnshot Flyover. Unfortunately the bridge isn't wide enough and has a give way to oncoming traffic kind of flow.

    "Urgent bridge inspection of Burnshot flyover" announced

    Burnshot flyover closed until further notice (no reason given)

    Seems aufy convenient...... Scottish Gov to fund new wider bridge or pay for major repairs?

    Local councillor telling CEC to hurry up and fix it. Surely under Transport Scotland remit?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. acsimpson
    Member

    "Surely under Transport Scotland remit?"

    The A90 isn't a trunk road south of the FRB so it's a council bridge as far as I'm aware.

    Posted 7 years ago #

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