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Which studded tyre?

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  1. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    I'm thinking about getting a pair for my mountain bike. I would be using them on the country paths: Brunstane Burn, Pencaitland, North Esk etc. These have flooded sections. Would these tyres make it safe to ride across ice?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. Dave
    Member

    Yes - I've been riding over (and turning on) frozen surface water most of the week - solid ice rather than frosting on the road surface. You do need to keep your wits about you, but it certainly works.

    That said, you might want something with a bit more mud clearance than the Marathon Winter even if it's only for the paths. There are quite a few options, try the shop links in the article :)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    Thanks Dave, that's a great review. Most of the paths are blaes. Beyond the Pencaitland Path there is some truly awful mud around Keith Marischal. From what I remember, the ride out towards Penicuik is not too muddy either. I think the 26" versions of the Marathon Winters should be ideal.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Schwalbe Winters 700x30c installed this evening.

    Looks like they might get a workout next week - weather currently forecasting for rain mixed with freezing overnight.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. Dave
    Member

    Excellent, interested to hear how you get on!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. Uberuce
    Member

    You'll be in rare company along the Broomhouse. From the looks of it as I rode in at 7.20 only a handful are still using it.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. cc
    Member

    Having finally decided to get a pair of Schwalbe winter tyres, I can't find them in stock anywhere. Though I don't know too many places to look.
    Does anyone know of places which still have them? I'm looking for the 47-559 size, which equates to "26 x 1.75 (or 26 x 1.75 x 2) (sometimes labelled 26 x 1.85 or 26 x 1.90)" (says this page).

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. duncans
    Member

    Sales opportunity for any LBS that happen to be paying attention?

    sjs on the interweb show stock.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. Dave
    Member

    cc - http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/k1040/a84977/marathon-winter-200-spikes-175-wired.html is the size you want

    Let me know if you're going to put in an order, as I'm thinking of hitting them for the 700c version, so we could split shipping.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    Different sort of "studded" -

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Getting over the initial sluggishness and the NOISE, ride was very firm today, deliberately rode the back streets and paths along my preferred route to work (including Lower Gilmore Place, Murieston, Roseburn Park, Pinkhill Path and past Gylemuir School). Most of the snow would have been fine on a regular tyre I think but at no point did I ever feel any slidyness, especially in the corners.

    They seem much quieter riding over snowy surfaces than uncovered ones.

    The only twitchyness I felt was in the car park at work, which is surfaced with bricks in a herringbone pattern.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. DaveC
    Member

    From the sounds I heard next to bikes cycling in this morning, there are quite a few cyclists with studs. Mostly 700 x ~35cc ish. The 26" tyres were mostly non studded plain MTB tyres from the lack of snap crackle but no pop.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. Min
    Member

    Kaputnik - yes the herringbone bricks feel weird under studded tyres. Also be aware going over paint lines in the road as there is a slight tramline effect.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. Uberuce
    Member

    The Broomhouse rumbles are even worse on studlies, I find. Might not be as bad since you don't have the outer studs, but I'm definitely one of the amusingly characteristic tracks marks that veer onto the 'wrong' side to go over them and then tuck back in.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. Dave
    Member

    The Marathons seem to have quite a stiff carcass (or it's the cold) - I notice them tracking subtly on all kinds of parallel lines, like old road repairs.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. Snowy
    Member

    I'm running the 26" Marathon Winters at 40psi. There is no visible sidewall deformation and I'm not the lightest rider in the world! So I'd agree they seem to have quite a stiff construction.

    Now that I've done about 125 miles on them, the studs seem to have bedded in well and there has been no stud loss since the initial few days.

    However - beware cobbles or rather rectangular setts. In particular, badly laid out setts such as Thirlestane Road, or the ones on the Aquaduct at Longstone. They'll pop the outer studs out of the tyres at an alarming rate.

    I got off my bike on the aquaduct yesterday and in the space of 10 metres found 4 studs from Schwalbe tyres. A good place to hunt for spares if you need them! ;-)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. kaputnik
    Moderator

    The 118 stud Schwalbe Winters aren't branded as "Marathons", as they don't have the thick blue rubber puncture shield I think, just a regular kevlar belt.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. Greenroofer
    Member

    @ Snowy - those studs are probably mine (although earlier this week I stopped to give way to a chap who rode past with the characteristic metallic clicking sound of stud on cobble, so I suppose they could be his).

    So far this year I've lost no studs off the front, but a few off the back. Two are right next to each other in the centre line of studs, and I suspect this is the result of an emergency stop last week when a ninja pedestrian appeared suddenly out of the glare of an oncoming bike light set too high.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Definitely noticed the tracking effect more this evening on ice and slush and frost-free tarmac. You have to encourage the bike round the corner a bit more with the handlebars, can't just rely on usual weight-shifting to do it.

    I also felt that there was an extra confidence boost when riding in the dark, when there's potentially pockets of hard to spot ice and frost lurking. It's far easier to take it slow and easy in the light, when you can spot hazards easier and further off, to take avoiding action.

    Worth every one of the 42 pounds - considering a single Marathon Plus will cost you nearly that amount.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. nearefare
    Member

    Popped on a set of Schwalbe Snow Stud at the weekend and whilst heavy and still just riding them in they feel nice and grippy, must go couny my studs :)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. DaveC
    Member

    I also feel the tracking on rutted ice. I have yet to regain confidence in them on ice though and took icey corners on the bike very carefully on the comute today.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. gembo
    Member

    now proud owner of marathon winter studded tyre 700 x 30, as per recommended hereabouts. Matt from http://www.justbikes.com kindly trued a bargain wheel of exact same rim size so I intend to check the weather and swap the wheels as necessary. A Christmas present from me to me. In discussion with colleagues on new phenomenon of everyone buying spiked tyres. What did we do before? Answer - fall off.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. Roibeard
    Member

    We've not had sufficient snow yet, but I think Calvin's Dad sets the standard for us...

    Snow tyres required

    Robert

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. Greenroofer
    Member

    Pushing our bikes over the aqueduct with mini-Greenroofer on Sunday after a trip to the Hailes Quarry pump track, I followed Snowy's advice above and asked her to keep an eye open for tyre studs as I have lost a few. Sure enough, we found one amongst the cobbles without looking too hard, and it's pleasingly unworn and new enough to re-use...

    ...so it can go straight back in the hole it fell out of.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  25. Smudge
    Member

    Back on the winter studded lht here... At least it's good resistance training!!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. acsimpson
    Member

    They also seem good for training you out of the habit of freewheeling just because the road goes down hill.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. dougal
    Member

    Also good for increasing awareness, sudden and aggressive braking not being great for the studs I think.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  28. acsimpson
    Member

    Another hidden benefit is the removal of the need to ping ones bell. Pedestrians seem to hear you coming from 100 yards away and look round to see what that noise it.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  29. wingpig
    Member

    It wasn't until I was trundling up the resurfaced Leith Walk the other day that I remembered that I'd remembered what the sound of studs reminded me of: the noise normal tyres made on the Greenway surface in the late nineties, when it was comprised of lots of tiny little green splintery things which looked suspiciously like glass when they became detached and pooled in the gutters.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. dougal
    Member

    It's a satisfying brrrrrrrrr noise on the right surface.

    Posted 6 years ago #

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