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  • Started 10 years ago by chdot
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  1. gembo
    Member

    Hopefully not until the 10th anniversary this october

    Posted 9 months ago #
  2. SRD
    Moderator

    regarding the second last post above. maybe we need a 'list of things new members need to know'.

    number 1 can be 'don't make lists'.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  3. Frenchy
    Member

    1. Don't make lists.
    2. If you do make lists, remember to close them properly by including a "[/list ]" tag (but without the space).
    3. If you forget, you can still edit your post but the edit button is not in its normal place.
    4. Don't make lists.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  4. Sheeptoucher
    Member

    Excuse the daft question but what happens when you make a list?

    Posted 8 months ago #
  5. Frenchy
    Member

    If you forget to include the [/list] tag at the end of the list, the formatting of the whole page gets messed up.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  6. davecykl
    Member

    Just wondering, if it's not perhaps a rude suggestion…

    Now that the WordPress site that this forum came out of no longer exists, might it make sense to change the forum software to something a bit more featureful (while keeping the current forum as a read-only archive)?

    Unfortunately, there are quite a few useful features which the forum lacks, such as a decent search facility, a more useful "new posts" (and unread posts, etc) filter, a device responsive theme, and let's not mention lists.

    A large number of other community group forums use phpBB, which seems to tick all of the above, although many other forum systems are available (I'm not particularly keen on Discourse, though, clever as it is.)

    Any thoughts/feelings?

    Posted 6 months ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    “Now that the WordPress site that this forum came out of no longer exists”

    Not strictly true.

    https://cyclingedinburgh.wordpress.com/

    It came to the end of its usefulness.

    CCE is different but better!

    “there are quite a few useful features which the forum lacks, such as a decent search facility”

    It can be good, but Google tends to be more effective.

    “A large number of other community group forums use phpBB”

    Haven’t looked for ages, but before setting up CCE, I looked at what was available then.

    I don’t remember seeing a phpBB site that was ‘attractive’.

    There was a crisis a few years ago when the service provider could no longer deal with BBPress (they updated their) software and broke things).

    Fortunately a CCEer put in the time and effort to make it work in a different webspace.

    I would love there to be a simple/better alternative that just worked and had various better options too.

    I wonder how many current posters would bother to acquaint themselves with new layout/software.

    Meanwhile any good phpBB sites to look at?

    Posted 6 months ago #
  8. davecykl
    Member

    @chdot: Ah, sorry, I must be getting my cyclingedinburgh's and my citycyclingedinburgh's mixed up!

    Point taken regarding the relative (im)maturity of web applications way back when.

    phpBB was just an example of commonly used forum software which seems to be a bit more featureful, there are various others which also seem to be quite popular.

    As for 'attractive', as somebody once said, "I only buy it for the articles, not to look at the photos"...

    Yes, a lot of phpBB sites just stick to the default theme, or have only a small handful of themes which members can choose from, but it is primarily the informative, useful and entertaining discussion that we're here for, isn't it? That the forum isn't very mobile-friendly is quite an awkward thing nowadays, unfortunately.

    Anyway, it was only a suggestion, no offence intended, and, of course, thanks for setting things up in the first place...

    Posted 6 months ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    Ah that site. That was a forerunner too!

    Not offended, just wish there was a simple answer.

    “That the forum isn't very mobile-friendly is quite an awkward thing nowadays, unfortunately.”

    I’m not really aware of this because I use iOS devices.

    I know some people just use RSS readers.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  10. chrisfl
    Member

    (just back in the country and back on wifi)

    So, it's a good question, and thanks for bring it up because it is actually becoming more pressingly as the site only runs on php5 which went out of support on 31st December 2018

    So short/medium term we DO need to consider moving to something new or do the work/find a fork for sticking to bbpress.

    So in general options are:

    1. bbpress wordpress plugin. When I started hosting I tried an import to this and couldn't easily get it to work. But my impression is that you end up with a blog/website engine with a forum on the side.

    2. move to something new. Options would be something like phpBB or alternatives. I did setup a discourse instance and actually managed to import the full site and all users quite well, and for me I was quite impressed. But the biggest sticking point is that it is a very different/whitespace/"modern" feel, so ideally we need to get some buy in, from most of the regular posters. But it will work well on mobile, do notifications of @messages and still do PM's, remember what's been read, smart notifications etc. I do have a demo of this I could show off at the next not PY or pub or even put online if people wanted to have a look.

    3. Stick with what we have. Strange as it seems lots of people like the site, and they way it works. I am about to switch the site over to a new server, and have a way to keep it working on php5; but the downside is that whatever vulnerabilities are present in php5 won't get fixed so there is a increasing chance that if/when something comes along that potentially opens up the site to hackers to steal the database (with your email addresses and hashed+salted passwords) as well as PM's and all of Gembo's posts. GDPR means that I'm pretty much liable in this instance so hence the current stasis isn't really a long term option.

    I also hope to switch the site over to https (the secure lock and removing sending passowrds in the clear) - but the whole thing seems to be hardwired in the database at various points to http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/ so not as straightforward as I had hoped, again another nail in staying as things are.

    I only look after the technology; but we do need to consider that things are going to have to change one way or another at some point, discussion and suggestions are most welcome.

    Also for the technically minded - the code for the current site is a https://github.com/chrisfleming/citycyclingedinburgh.info

    Posted 6 months ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    Discussion continues here -

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19724

    Posted 6 months ago #
  12. Rosie
    Member

    The link above leads to a thread where comments are closed.

    If you are thinking of re-jigging the site actual dates for posts would be more useful than "4 months ago", "5 years ago". Sometimes I look at a thread to carbon date a consultation.

    Posted 2 months ago #

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