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"Edinburgh trams: St Andrew Square re-opened"
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Posted 11 years ago #
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A major milestone indeed that the Chipwrapper managed not to call it "St. Andrew's Square"
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Hmmm...how odd. I'm looking at St Andrew Sq now from my office window and it's festooned with metal barriers, cranes, equipment, red/white lane blockers, etc.
So in other words, not very open at all!
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Posted 11 years ago #
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You still can't get up N. St. Andrew Street. I pushed through Multrees Walked and entered the Square, made a circuit before heading off down S. St. David Street. It's a bit of a confusing mess of a layout as far as southbound traffic wanting to turn right is concerned. There's random double yellows in the middle of the road, I assume as taxis will stop anywhere given half a chance. Given discussion on other thread, they really should be with bars, or double reds, otherwise blue badge holders can park on them?
I naively thought that the south side of the Square might have been resurfaced in all the time that it's been behind barriers, but it's been left like the face of the moon.
Posted 11 years ago # -
Nice new cycle lane
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My office also looks over St Andrew Sq. I can't wait for it to be cleared of the fencing and contincually moving fencing. Still Fencing movong once every few days is safer than taxis moving constantly, which they are starting to do.
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OT: Just looking through your other photos on Flicker chdot, which appear to be taken Next Year! Is your bike a time machine too? ;o)
Posted 11 years ago # -
Markon are parked on the rails on North Sq Andrew Street where they are marking out for the cycle path line painting, up from Dublin Street to St Andrew Sq, on the pavement (west side). Min will be pleased!
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Ooh! Though I'll reserve my pleasement until I have seen they got it right! ;-)
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grouchrealist]Posted 11 years ago # -
up from Dublin Street to St Andrew Sq, on the pavement (west side).
Presumably that's for downhill, northbound cycling; with uphill, southbounders having to cross the tram tracks by the Portrait Gallery and join the normal carriageway to head up to St Andrew Sq?
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Dunno, but personally I wouldn't want to cross the zig zags, and then have to cross N St Andrew St from west to east over two sets of tracks, then have to avoid traffic peeling off York Place onto N St Andrew St in a hurry! I don't care that there maybe signs saying no left turn but I would guess that drivers will ignore this at cyclists peril. I'd cycle up the paved shared route to St Andrew Sq then cross to the road at the lights with traffic coming off North St Andrew Sq.
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I don't care that there maybe signs saying no left turn but I would guess that drivers will ignore this at cyclists peril.
They already do. They just move the barriers that are supposed to be there and drive through at will.
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Cycle signs on the path with direction arrows now being placed. Looks like south bound (up hill to St Andrew Sq) will be road only, and north bound to York Place, is pavement only. There is a wide solid white line on the west path with cycle provision on the road side. Photos to follow when there is more to show.
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madness:
@CraigMacLellan
@CyclingEdin Cyclists told to ride on the pavement to avoid tram lines from St Andrew Sq to York Place? Grief ahoy!Posted 11 years ago # -
I see from that pic that it's working well already :-(
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It was interesting talking to the
Pedestrian AssociationLiving Streets the other evening, they are slowly getting the idea that cyclists don't want to have "shared use" paths taking space from pedestrian and that if they as pedestrians want the cyclists off the pavements, they are going to have to take back the streets from the motorists. OK not all of them but some of them.Posted 11 years ago # -
"OK not all of them but some of them"
That IS progress.
I hope the "some" are the more active/campaigning LS people?
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Actually, they ALL agreed on cyclists as allies and were extremely positive on learning from bike campaigns, until discussion turned to claims that since bikes only kill a fraction of pedestrians, bikes on pavements is not an issue. which is rubbish and misses the point entirely. that argument derails the conversation, and antagonizes people who happy to be allies.
i'll try to blog about it later.
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