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Cyclists in Carridgeway...

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  • Started 10 years ago by steveo
  • Latest reply from hippetyhop

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  1. steveo
    Member

    ...seriously why does this need to be highlighted? Just because the cyclists isn't in the gutter drivers need to be told? Or is it claims culture 'ealf and safty?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    Is this because all vehicles are now in the (former) cycle lane before turning left in to Dalry Road?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  3. SRD
    Moderator

    heck, it's better than 'cyclists dismount' isn't it?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  4. steveo
    Member

    I think they're working on the pavement, there was a sign along the lines of caution narrow pavement. So that is probably encroaching on the bike lane. Though why drivers need to be alerted that a bike might be in front of them I'm still not sure.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  5. crowriver
    Member

    Though why drivers need to be alerted that a bike might be in front of them I'm still not sure.

    I think we all know the answer to that one...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  6. kaputnik
    Moderator

    frankly I'm just amazed that sign isn't in the cycle lane.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  7. EddieD
    Member

    I have to go round that area quite a lot, and I've taken to adopting a fairly determined primary along there - the lines cars take round the corner onto Dalry can be very varied - as can the lines that bikes take - it's quite a sharp corner down at the bottom, and lot of bikes (me included) run a little wide.

    I got harassed by a Royal Mail van last night - he'd moved into the ASL, but there was about 1.5 meters left, so I plonked myself there, and got a good start, and then heard behind me the engine dwell in first and a good 20seconds of horn. I maintained my position (and I wasn't hanging around, my speedo indicated 25+) into Dalry Road, which was, as usual, blocked at the bus stops, so he'd have been baulked there anyway. Heading down Dalry shortly after he caught me (the lights outside the SBS were red) and gave me a few more blasts of horn.

    I've contacted the Royal Mail with the reg number and will see what happens.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  8. fimm
    Member

    @SRD agree.

    @EddieD I find Royal Mail vans are a common culprit for agressive driving - I wonder if they have tight schedules to keep to?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  9. Focus
    Member

    "I find Royal Mail vans are a common culprit for agressive driving - I wonder if they have tight schedules to keep to?"

    Add to that badly parked. I regularly find a small van parked in Maidencraig Crescent, right round the 90 (ok, 80)% corner, where it forces anyone onto the wrong side of the road before they can properly see if there's anything coming. The driver is clearly ahead of schedule as he's just sitting there, presumably taking a break before collecting from the local post office.

    They also park on the double yellows (with admittedly faint kerb markings), just round the corner from the PO on Craigcrook Road, where the kerb juts out (narrowing the road) a) as though double parking and b) usually blocking the pedestrian crossing area with its lowered kerb and "knobbled" flagstones for the benefit of the seeing-impaired.

    I appreciate they may have large bags to carry (though it's not usually that busy a PO, but the choice of parking spot leaves a lot to be desired. Occasionally, I've even seen them use the alternative of parking on the main road (Queensferry) immediately before the corner!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  10. ARobComp
    Member

    I reported a royal mail van recently on twitter for driving whie reading his mobile. I gave them the code of the van and time and day and exact location (from GPS tag) but "they were unable to identify who was in the van at the time" - they sent a general reminder to all drivers...

    Posted 10 years ago #
  11. gembo
    Member

    Royal mail vans usually tanking it in the evening around sorting office at sighthill, I am guessing to make deadline for last post? When I were a young cub researcher our professor often made deadlines for grant applications by also speeding out that way about 7pm to deliver his mail to the sorting office.

    Royal Mail vans at other times of the day seem same as other vans but more of a red colour predominantly, so may get noticed about as much as white vans?

    Posted 10 years ago #
  12. slowcoach
    Member

    "they were unable to identify who was in the van at the time" - lucky for them then that it wasn't a section 172 notice from the Police requiring them to identify the driver. Failure to do so is an offence, unless they can show that the failure to keep a record of who was driving was "reasonable" eg their van had been stolen? Might be worth reminding them of their legal duties.

    One reason given years ago for Post Office/Royal Mail vans being worse driven was that they didn't have separate insurance so there was less incentive for them to drive better to keep insurance premiums down.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    "Failure to do so is an offence, unless they can show that the failure to keep a record of who was driving was "reasonable" eg their van had been stolen?"

    That's an interesting/useful bit of info!

    Posted 10 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    "Striking a balance between essential signage and unnecessary clutter has always provided a dilemma for engineers responsible for highway safety."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-22440568

    Posted 10 years ago #
  15. Coxy
    Member

    Post vans.

    Nothing to do with the posties being off their faces on speed, then?

    ;)

    Posted 10 years ago #
  16. neddie
    Member

  17. neddie
    Member

  18. SRD
    Moderator

    "they were unable to identify who was in the van at the time" -

    I got this from Royal mail in January. Driver insisted he 'couldn't see me' coming down a wide quiet street in broad daylight. Royal Mail gave me same response. I said it was not satisfactory. they claimed to have "passed the matter to their manager". Nothing further.

    Posted 10 years ago #
  19. hippetyhop
    Member

    I'd like to change that sign to read "Caution: motorists in carriageway".

    Posted 10 years ago #

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