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Waverley to get “cycle hub”?

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  1. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Really??

    Apart from the modern abominations of Euston and Birmingham New Street, I'm struggling to think of a comparable sized mainline station (certainly that I've been through) with the low-hanging roof like Waverley. Glasgow Queen Street and Central are palatial in comparison.

    EDIT - On further research, the height of the roof is limited by an act of parliament to a maimum of 12.8m above rail level.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    "I'm struggling to think of a comparable sized mainline station"

    True, but there is still a fair amount of height/volume under the glass but with The Mound/Gallery at one end reducing natural airflow(?)

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. kaputnik
    Moderator

    True, but there is still a fair amount of height/volume under the glass but with The Mound/Gallery at one end reducing natural airflow(?)

    Seeing as trainsheds are generally enclosed at either end anyway to a height not much above the level of train roofs, I'd imagine that the low-hanging ridge/furrow style of Waverley is an issue (compare to the barrel vault of many other large stations) in a station already sitting in a natural collection trough for pollution.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. crowriver
    Member

    I like these images of the old Waverley (thanks chdot for the link). Note the newspaper kiosk on the eastern concourse. The colour photo of the old ticket booth (now Costa coffee) is 1969. The others are undated but I presume 1960s judging by the modern BR typeface? The phrase 'faded grandeur' spring to mind...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. Min
    Member

    Steveo There are other types?

    Haha, good point!

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. cb
    Member

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/waverley-market-returns-to-its-roots-1-3351127

    Market stall plan for Waverley Station.

    A brief mention of the proposed cycle hub in the 2nd last paragraph.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  7. PS
    Member

    A “cycle hub” will be established beside the Calton Road exit, including secure cycle parking and lockers.

    I wonder if the Council will do a bit of joined-up, holistic planning and take the opportunity to improve the cycling provision in the surrounding streets?

    The cycling options from the Calton Road exit are pretty rotten at the moment:
    - Leith Street: exit onto a dual carriageway heading west only, otherwise it's get off and push time ("Welcome to Edinburgh");
    - Calton Hill: Perhaps a little too steep and cobble-y for cyclists who haven't had a chance to warm up yet;
    - Calton Road: Some fairly rough cobbles on which impatient drivers tend to zoom past cyclists; and
    - New Street: a steep old hill, fairly wide but it's not unusual to be close-passed by drivers overtaking into the face of oncoming traffic.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    "I wonder if the Council will do a bit of joined-up, holistic planning and take the opportunity to improve the cycling provision in the surrounding streets?"

    That is indeed the question!

    And one reason why Network Rail was asked if Calton Road was the best place for a hub.

    But obviously they know best.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  9. crowriver
    Member

    And one reason why Network Rail was asked if Calton Road was the best place for a hub.

    But obviously they know best.

    Of course. Out of the way, out of sight, out of mind. That's where cycling belongs!

    If the council improve the on-road links it could work, especially for those coming from the east and north.

    Posted 11 years ago #
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    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. Claggy Cog
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    I won't be using it, standing on a platform is bad enough, cough, cough, cough, with the diesel engines of trains, taxis and cars, all left running...

    They would have to put in some serious ventilation before this could happen.

    ...and I thought the current bike parking was safe!! Supposedly. Every time I have gone to collect my bike later at night one or more staff have appeared, perhaps because I am taking overly long to get it together and move. There is always, it seems to me, the jobsworth who tells you to get off your bike when trying to get from the parking to the exit. Great of the bike parking being moved as far away as possible from the entrance not so long ago. Looks like this new "piazza" is going to be where the current bike parking is, how nice of them to think about us.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  12. PS
    Member

    The diesel fumes tend to be concentrated at the western platforms, where the Glasgow and Fife trains sit with their engines running. The eastern end of the station feels much airier and more open, given the lack of an equivalent of Waverley Bridge.

    Of course, once EGIP electrifies the Edinburgh-Glsgow line things will be mightily improved.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  13. Claggy Cog
    Member

    Call me old fashioned but I liked the old booking hall with it's wooden ticket booths, not everything is an improvement. There is nothing left of the old grandeur of the building, it feels like cheap tat.

    PS @ I hear what you're saying re fumes. It would still be parky sitting out with your lattes. I like a warm place to sit whilst waiting for a train, if I have to.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  14. PS
    Member

    I think it might actually be too warm in the summer, if that roof is as greenhouse-y as it looks.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  15. crowriver
    Member

    STV article provides more detail on the exact location of this new 'market piazza', and a plan.

    Good grief, I'll have to walk past this every week!

    Posted 11 years ago #

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