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CEC's road resurfacing priorities

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  1. HankChief
    Member

    WellI had my day in the sun at the Transport Committee and was able to show my photos of GSR at rush hour last night

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/91842878@N03/8941187735/

    I attempted to broaden out my deputation to show that it wasn't just a one road issue and the prioritisation wasn't working if it didn' select roads like GSR. Not sure how sucessful I was at that.

    Cllr Booth asked some good questions and got Lesley to give assurances that GSR would be looked at. And also that they would dig out a previous report about traffic calming on it.

    After the meeting one of the road officers caught me and explained that the category that East Hermiston was under was for a thin top layer rathrr than wholesale improvement. What GSR needed was a more fundamental overhaul, which would need to come from the main pot.

    Myself and DdF raised with him whether the spokes amendments to the 2010 document wereIin the live version. He's away to check.

    All in all, we've certainly raised awareness of the issues and ensured that GSR gets looked ay properly. No hard promises or starting date for the work - which is now likely to be next financial year at the earliest. Another winter of fun then....

    Posted 10 years ago #

  2. cb
    Member

    http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/blacklist-of-roads-revealed-for-vital-repairs-1-2953817

    "The top ten worst roads – situated across the city and revealed here for the first time today – are set for a major overhaul under transport blueprints to bring battered main arteries up to scratch"

    I must be missing something as I can't see any list.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  3. SRD
    Moderator

    @hankchief - well done you! sounds most positive.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  4. SRD
    Moderator

    "I must be missing something as I can't see any list."

    must be on the council website somewhere...

    is the king's junction on it? have blogpost half-written. although it needs more than just resurfacing.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  5. HankChief
    Member

    The list can be found by using Buddster's link above and going to the appendices of 7.10

    Posted 10 years ago #

  6. kaputnik
    Moderator

    or by clicking here.

    Noticed in here that the Pinkhill to Balgreen part of the railway path is scheduled to be surfaced and given streetlighting. Yay!

    Posted 10 years ago #

  7. kaputnik
    Moderator

    is the king's junction on it

    @SRD - rather unbelievably, no. I did enquire about this with the Council and was given the unsatisfactory explanation (posted on Clarenced & Pending thread) that it had been on it, then was taken off due to gas mains works and then it was too late to put it back on. They agreed it was in a poor state but there was nothing that could be done...

    ...I haven't checked yet if the ever-widening subterranean void that I spotted and reported has been dealt with.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  8. SRD
    Moderator

    k'nik - can you get me some pics of the intersection? i want to blog it, but can't seem to pull them off streetview (not sure why, i've done it before).

    Posted 10 years ago #

  9. chdot
    Admin

    Today was undoubtedly a great success.

    HC deserves the credit for making the effort to assemble the facts, write down a coherent argument about (and beyond) GSR, arranging the deputation opportunity and delivering what he intended to say well - with ad lib references to other presentations.

    He was also asked questions (which were dealt with well).

    Lesley Hinds was marginally defensive and pointed out that there was a proposal to spend more money and that CEC had just agreed to employ another person to look at the quality of work by utility companies.

    Clearly good news and 'in the right direction' but certainly not invalidating his arguments about GSR in particular and policies and actions generally.

    Other presentations included one about the extreme difficulties of crossing Granton Road around Ferry Road - particularly for young children going to three local nurseries and older people from a nearby home.

    It was suggested that the lollipop lady had been 'banned' from one spot because she was 'disrupting traffic flow'...

    Another very detailed presentation was about traffic levels and air pollution in the New Town (previous threads - this is not a new issue!) and the difficulty of dealing with officials unwilling to actually monitor the situation adequately.

    The conclusion was 'please interrogate your officials because you as a committee can't make proper decisions if you don't have all the facts'...

    Individuals can't have deputations. HC appeared as "a member of CityCyclingEdinburgh".

    I knew about this in advance of course and had seen his 'script'.

    I think it was an important thing to be able to 'lend' the CCE name to.

    Don't think it would be good to turn it into a 'regular event' - but it is useful to know that it's a possible 'tool' which can have beneficial effects.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  10. kaputnik
    Moderator

    @SRD I'll try and remember on my way home to step off the bike and grb a few.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  11. SRD
    Moderator

    @k'nik thanks!

    Posted 10 years ago #

  12. Greenroofer
    Member

    Well done HC!

    Posted 10 years ago #

  13. HankChief
    Member

    Now that I'm home I can do a proper embedded photo.

    I was quite pleased to be the last deputation so I could leave the screens in the room showing the top photo for the rest of the meeting.

    These were taken last night.

    Gogar Station Road

    Gogar Station Road

    Posted 10 years ago #

  14. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I often wonder why Gogar Station Road is open as a through route.

    Ah. RBS. That's why.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  15. shuggiet
    Member

    Absolutely! Should be made into a dead end approx where it crosses the railway... Same with Roddinglaw road (to cut the other rat run up)... With all motorised transport then able to use one of the 2 motorways there isn't any need for these through routes.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  16. chdot
    Admin

    Well when the tram is running, ought to be an incentive for CEC to shut GSR - to get more passengers...

    Tramphobes could just cycle along the new traffic free route...

    Posted 10 years ago #

  17. SRD
    Moderator

    This thread has changed my thoughts about lots of things.

    Cycling along Gilmore Place this morning and it occurred to me that all the really bad potholes are in cyclists way, but not as much cars. No wonder it's not been fixed!

    Thanks @hankchief!

    Posted 10 years ago #

  18. gembo
    Member

    Came back from the alps the other evening. First time I have been in a Taxi that went up RBS slip road and on to Balerno via GSR. I haven't flown for a while. Good bit cheaper than if had to go to hermiston. Roddinglaw on way down has always been the Balerno resident's route to the airport. Obviously I would vote for making the road a dead end as a cyclist but I can see that drivers would object.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  19. TheBuddster
    Member

    Hi Snowy. Just to let you know the section of Colinton Rd you had issues with is maintained by the South Team so I reported it to them.
    They replied:

    The Local Roads Inspector has assessed Colinton Road around Merchiston Avenue. A number of defects have been placed on our repairs list, including the bad rutting at the Ave. Temporary repairs will be carried out as soon as resources permit.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  20. HankChief
    Member

    Progress...

    I can advise that the West Neighbourhood Roads Team are undertaking localised carriageway patching works on Gogar Station Road.

    Following information passed to the team regarding a collapsed gully and a old reinstatement track, repairs have been arranged near to the humped back bridge. This requires a road closure to complete the works.

    In addition 2 way traffic lights will be used for 2 weeks in order for further localised carriageway patching repairs to be carried out, this is anticipated to commence 22 July. This is following concerns raised to this team by local road users and the local elected members.

    Let's hope that they do a proper job...

    They are closing the road for 2 days next week and then 2 weeks of contra-flow so they should have enough time to do it properly.

    I'll keep you posted.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  21. chdot
    Admin

    Well worth the effort then!

    Closed to all traffic??

    Posted 10 years ago #

  22. HankChief
    Member

    Closed to all traffic??

    Yep. Had notice that it will be closed next Wednesday & Thursday.

    Open to pedestrians though.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  23. chdot
    Admin

    "Open to pedestrians though"

    Are there many?

    Will there be problems with bikes on pavements??

    Posted 10 years ago #

  24. HankChief
    Member

    "Are there many?"

    Some - people walk down from Hermiston P&R (or the little turn off on GSR) and then you get the lunchtime runners.

    "Will there be problems with bikes on pavements??"

    The pavement isn't very wide and has overhanging foliage so not great but I know a few cyclists who regular ride it rather than facing the traffic on GSR.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  25. neddie
    Member

    Northbound on Bruntsfield Pl, at the junction where Viewforth exits, is getting really bad.

    It's essential to take and maintain primary at this point, however it's getting really hard to pick that line without destroying your wheels, especially when you have a 16kilo toddler aboard.

    The reason you need a good line is because the sightlines out of Viewforth are obstructed by a bin, then there is a traffic island pinch point, then there is a bus-buildout pinch point (or a stationary bus to overtake)

    I wish it could be sorted. Needs more than a few pats of cold tar...

    Posted 10 years ago #

  26. SRD
    Moderator

    I've tweeted south team, but further actions could include (1) emailing them (2) emailing your councillors (3) contacting your community council. All recommended.

    Squeaky wheels do get oil. sightlines & bins they have heard a lot about lately :) http://deceasedcanine.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/the-bins-part-2-is-this-what-victory.html

    I used to come out of Viewforth there most days, but then it occurred to me that I should actually try using the bike infra (duh!). So, now I go along westhall gardens and then up Lemaington terrace to Leamington walk. Fewer dodgy corners, quieter roads and better surface that Viewforth. Why did it take me so long???

    Posted 10 years ago #

  27. chdot
    Admin

    "
    EdinburghTravelNews (@edintravel)
    17/07/2013 07:42
    Gogar Station Road carriageway works 17th & 18th July. Road closed to through traffic 9am - 4pm. Map http://www.bit.ly/1bHOEq8 #edintravel

    "

    So no inconvenience for commuters.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  28. cc
    Member

    Lauder Road in the Grange has been having minor surgery this week, good smooth patching, though imo it wasn't bad to start with. But it's getting a little bit lovelier each day, which is nice.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  29. SRD
    Moderator

    re bruntsfield place @ Viewforth

    @south_team
    Our team is aware of the issues at the junction and temp repairs are planned. Extensive repair is currently being investigated

    Posted 10 years ago #

  30. Snowy
    Member

    So, now I go along westhall gardens and then up Lemaington terrace to Leamington walk. Fewer dodgy corners, quieter roads and better surface that Viewforth. Why did it take me so long???

    @SRD Funny - I've started doing exactly the same thing !

    Posted 10 years ago #

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