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Are there more roadies commuting?

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  • Started 12 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
  • Latest reply from Uberuce

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  1. Now, I'm not fast. I know this. I've ridden with kaputnik and PS and Uberuce and ARobComp and and and. I've ridden sportives and audaxes and been amongst the last home. I've ridden cyclocross and my best result was third or fourth last. I'm not fast.

    But. Commuting, knowing it's a short distance, and knowing the route intimately (though in a non-Barry White intimacy), I can shift reasonably well, to the extent that getting overtaken really was a once in a blue moon occurrence. However recently that's shifted. At least once or twice a week I'm finding someone not just overtaking me, but absolutely whizzing by. It's happened twice this week - Monday a chap in full-on race lycra, virtually no baggage, on a carbon (I think) Ribble, chased me up the Innocent Tunnel (stop sniggering) at a pace that was quite frankly frightening (we chatted when stopped at lights and he confirmed I'd acted as a hare and it's easier to race up the tunnel when you have a target); this morning, again on the Innocent I was taking it reasonably easy, but still making good progress, and again a lycra-d up chap flies by just after I'd overtaken a lady on a mountain bike that was squeakier than David Beckham with his bits caught in his zip. Small rucksack, very skinny racey bike.

    I wonder if more club riders and the like are actually deciding that, as well as organised evening rides and turbo sessions, they can actually get a workout by taking the bike on a commute. I hope that's the case anyway, as I'm not sure my ego can take any more of this (at present I'm contenting myself that I've got a laden Carradice and a big camera bag, but I can only kid myself for so long).

    It does lead to a slightly oblique observation, however, that perhaps sport cycling does then lead to utility cycling?

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  2. steveo
    Member

    I've had the big bike the last few weeks so thats my excuse, even when passed by old ladies on pig iron.

    My personal opinion is that the Carradice automatically marks you as slow so being passed is no shame, but passing a full carbon roady with the saddle bag swinging...

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  3. "but passing a full carbon roady with the saddle bag swinging...2

    I have actually done that... Though he was either warming up on the way to meeting the club run, or cooling down after a long ride, one of the two.

    Got plans to arrest that swing. Watch this space (because it's actually started annoying me recently).

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  4. steveo
    Member

    The straps on mine have stretched so when I'm out the saddle it can slip free of the bracket, its a pain in the...

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  5. kaputnik
    Moderator

    You get much more feeling of reward by catching and passing* a bike that is blinger/more expensive/ridden by someone in more expensive kit than your own. Taking out carbon bikes with 2 full panniers is always a pleasure.

    * = properly, not just getting infront then sitting up and pulling over

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  6. Darkerside
    Member

    Seems a sensible time to bring up the FCN calculator...

    http://www.itsnotarace.org/fcn-calculator/

    Not enough provision for multiple pannier bags in my opinion, but it's not a bad start

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  7. Blueth
    Member

    Reminds me of the time we were returning through Penicuik when we passed two young lads stopped on the pavement.

    They took off after us and one got in front of the group only to be overtaken by our front man. On realising that he was not actually going to catch an old guy in his seventies the lad did a quick left down a side street.

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  8. allebong
    Member

    I just got my road bike built up in the last few days and have been blasting it about town. Astounding how much faster it is than my commuter (battered rigid mtb with slicks). Something I noticed though is that other roadies seem to notice me more when I'm on the road bike. While commuting I have a fairly casual cyclist look, the bike is pretty plain with mudguards etc, I'm wearing normal clothes and a backpack. Roadies tend to blast past without a second look or don't pay much attention if they're oncoming. On the road bike though I have the jersey/shorts/SPDs going on and I get a lot of evaluative glances. No silly commuting racing so far but the summer is young.

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  9. wingpig
    Member

    I often find that when you pull up behind a pencils-and-fairy-whiskers frame bestrode by a whippety being that they're much slower than they look when they set off from the lights, to the extent that having pulled up behind them seems silly, though obviously if you'd gone in front of or to the side of them they'd have though you were deliberately racing them rather than merely wanting to move off when the lights turn green at normal moving-off-from-the-lights speed. Perhaps their gearing is too biased to cruising uphill into the wind at 19mph or they don't want to gain too much leg-weight by developing acceleration-muscles.

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  10. Coxy
    Member

    We ended up in a bit of a chain a few days ago - heading down Portobello Road towards King's Road.

    Well, I say a chain, more like a sprint lead out for the final guy who took off towards King's Road.

    I did overtake someone with shaved legs though, that wasn't a girl...

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  11. Bruce
    Member

    Nice weather usually means people with more than one bike end up using the road bike, thats my reasoning anyway for being on my road bike for the last week.

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  12. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    Some of the techniques that made my commute safer left me at a disadvantage on club rides. Leading a group on the approach to a red traffic light I'd take primary behind a bus or lorry and then see the rest of the group pass on the inside and outside. I've been dropped more times that way than any other.

    But the big problem with aerobic riding in town is the pollution. I had several coughing fits which left me collapsed by the side of the road while commuting. I also had so many chest infections that I used to factor them into my training diary each spring. Since I stopped commuting into Edinburgh both have stopped.

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  13. Baldcyclist
    Member

    I quite like it on long steep downhills when you freewheel past some skinny dude pedalling like fury. One good thing about having some 'ballast' is you drop like a stone on descents. :)

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  14. Two Tired
    Member

    Jeez. How to make someone self conscious! I generally smile and/or nod my head at every cyclist I see when I'm out. Now I'm going to be analysing their return greeting for clues as to what sort of cyclist they perceive me to be!

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  15. :D

    Been loads of discussions on here about greeting other cyclists. A few different camps including 'must greet everyone' down to 'greet if you want'. Unless someone is downright rude I'm not that fussed!

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  16. panyagua
    Member

    If I were to nod to every rider I see on the NEPN, I'd have a permanent crick in my neck. I see this as a good thing - there are so many of us, it's beyond unremarkable when yet another cyclist hoves into view. Now on the other side of the FRB, it's a different matter...

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  17. Dave
    Member

    I'm not sure whether it's not just a combination of a couple of things, first that all weather riders are getting out their nicer bikes, and second that roadies who only have nice rides doing are doing likewise. It could be new riders but you'd expect them to be very slow even if they chose something nippy.

    I do know that my own nice bikes are starting to get an airing.

    I take a uniform approach to waving across all modes of transport, if I know them, they get one...

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  18. ruggtomcat
    Member

    Had an amazing bit of SCR last night, coming up to the junction at summerhall from the meadows I saw there was ahigh chance of thease lights turning green soon so i qued up 4/5 cars back from the junction, deciding it was better than squeezing down the left, and was prompty passed by some comuter on a mtb+slicks.

    'oh, maybe I can catch him up on the slope?' I thought. and as the traffic moved off I gave it a bit of beans. Overtook that guy before even getting to the slope but infront of me was a whole pelaton of commuters on a range of machines up to a carbon whippet at the front. I am on the recumbent with my 30kg trailer of show stuff but nonetheless overtook the lot of them before the clerk street junction (which was green) and once I was over the crest I really put the hammer down, they dwindled into the distance, I felt good about my life for a few seconds.

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  19. gembo
    Member

    In French alps at the weekend return nod was 90% virtually all roadies. Many bonjours also, some just little finger waves. Cyclists are too grumpy and need to be more friendly is my view. But I take this line with pedestrians too, what's to lose? And dog walkers.

    Good weather brings out the fast road bikes for sure.

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  20. LaidBack
    Member

    I am on the recumbent with my 30kg trailer of show stuff but nonetheless overtook the lot of them before the clerk street junction (which was green) and once I was over the crest I really put the hammer down,

    Yes... that's what I like to hear :-)

    Outcomforting and outpacing at the same time - plus towing a ton of stuff!

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  21. ruggtomcat
    Member

    In nodding terms I at least flick eyebrows with anyone I pass on the paths, on the road there is little room in my brain for such niceties. :(

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  22. crowriver
    Member

    Definately more roadies about. This evening on Waverley bridge a chap on a road bike pulled alongside. Such a contrast!

    Me: trousers, shirt, jacket, no helmet, bicycle clips, bureau pannier, bar bag, flat pedals, touring tyres, mudguards.
    He: white lyvra shorts, racing top, helmet, shades, sports rucksac, seat wedge, clipless, skinny slicks, no guards.

    All well and good but I've never understood the rucksac thing: does it not make one top heavy and wobble about more when getting up to speed?

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  23. Instography
    Member

    Nah, rucksacks are OK but only if panniers are not an option and I suppose if you're on your bling bike you don't want a rack and panniers.

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  24. gembo
    Member

    Rucksacks make me sweat.

    I liked kaputnik's tweed musette

    Ruggtomcat's eyebrows when not singed can go very high

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  25. Nelly
    Member

    I agree with WC re more roadies - but think its also the good weather bringing out lots of ALL cyclists.

    This is generally a good thing (and surprisingly lots are sans helmet this year) but there are still an awful lot of pavement cyclists, esp (on my commute) around Slateford road / Polwarth. Annoying

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  26. steveo
    Member

    Every time I speak to a cyclist with no rack fixings I try to sell them a carradice. They're so much better than messing around with rucksacks. I should be on commission.

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  27. crowriver
    Member

    its also the good weather bringing out lots of ALL cyclists.

    Maybe, but I haven't noticed huge numbers. I was the only cyclist on my train both ways today. There are usually more (in university term time).

    I expect there'll be the annual rush of dusting down little used cycles next week during Bike Week.

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  28. Dave
    Member

    I stopped counting at 14 today on the short stretch between the red bridge and the hairpin at the other end of the park.

    No peds to be seen. Are they all on bikes?

    Cyclists are too grumpy and need to be more friendly is my view. But I take this line with pedestrians too, what's to lose? And dog walkers.

    And drivers too. Have you ever tried waving to all oncoming traffic? I wonder what the wave-back rate would be.

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  29. Kenny
    Member

    I wonder what the wave-back rate would be.

    I think their wave back might only involve one finger.

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  30. fimm
    Member

    I can't put a rack on my road bike, and it is the bike I have, I can't just go out and buy another one. I do have a Carradice but they are expensive (compared to a rucksack) and I don't have a lot of space between saddle and back wheel, and I had to buy gizmos to go on my saddle to attach the bag to (and that doesn't work all that well as the bag assumes a wider saddle), and I have to use bungee cords to keep the bag away from the back wheel. Yes I know you can get a thing to go on your seatpost to lift the bag up but that is more money.

    So it is perhaps not so surprising that people stick to a rucksack (which can be used in other contexts as well, unlike a saddlebag).

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