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New zig-zag - top of Dublin Street

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  1. PS
    Member

    @Min I meant the trams turning the corner from York Place into North St Andrew St, rather than having a turntable.

    This isn't really a zig-zag, more a sideways ramp, so no need to trun back on yourself - more a 80 degree turn to the left then an 80 degree turn to the right. Should be achievable on most bikes I'd have thought.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. Min
    Member

    Ah okay, I see what you mean.

    There is a crossover at the east end of York Place. The east bound trams will cross south to the west bound lines as they head off west again.

    Ah, they HAVE thought about it. Wonders never cease!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  3. "Ah, they HAVE thought about it. Wonders never cease!"

    Careful, there's always a big step from 'thinking' to 'correct implementation'...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  4. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Let us not congratulate them until they've successfully managed to get a tram to change directions through the crossing!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. Min
    Member

    True. The crossing point is bound to need digging up and re-laying a couple of times before the tram even gets near it too.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  6. steveo
    Member

    I'm envisioning an hourly service of one super tram going up and down the one side of track...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  7. PS
    Member

    Gah. In the last couple of days, the nature of the ped/cycle crossing of York Place has become clearer as railings have been installed around a mid-road island. Cycling from Dublin Street to North St Andrew Street will involve crossing to the island, 90 degree turn right, cycle ten yards, 90 degree turn left, cross southern carriageway, then 45 degreee turn left to cross tramways. On the face of it, the island looks wide enough for two cyclists to pass in either direction, but throw peds into the mix and it's a "cyclist dismount" sign waiting to happen.

    I presume this is all designed to stop cyclists and peds stepping/stumbling/falling into the path of the silent assassins trams.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  8. I hate those central-railed islands. Allegedly for pedestrian safety, but of greater safety is being able to cross the entire road in one go and not being coralled into the centre.

    Of course the actual reason for such islands is because lights can be red for traffic for shorter periods. Only need to have each light on red for the length of time it takes to cross half the road - whereas if peds had to cross a road in one go it would have to be red long enough for everyone to make it all the way across.

    But we'll be told it's for pedestrian safety. As ever.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  9. AKen
    Member

    Crossing the road from Slateford Station to Asda as a pedestrian involves FOUR waits for a green signal because of these staggered crossings. It's a real pain in the posterior and, I'm sure, encourages people to take risks.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. Kim
    Member

    There are there to remind pedestrian that they are not supposed to walk, but should be driving 400m to the shops instead...

    Posted 11 years ago #

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