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HGV restrictions

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  1. SRD
    Moderator

    Dublin's apparently blocked HGVs since 2007.

    "HGVs do not have free access to the streets of Dublin city centre. A zone has been created that HGVs with 5+ axles cannot enter during the day, except with a valid permit."

    "The HGV Strategy provides for a ban on 5+ axle vehicles during the hours of 07.00-19.00 seven days a week from a designated cordon area and provides a limited permit scheme for 5+ axle vehicles that need to load/unload within the city centre area."

    "The HGV Strategy has resulted in dramatic reductions of 5+ axle vehicles within the city centre area of between 80 - 94% on different routes within the cordon area. "

    I don't know enough about HGVs to know if the ones we see around are more than 5 axles. Suspect they may not be. So perhaps an equivalent ban here would not make much difference?

    Posted 10 years ago #

  2. Snowy
    Member

    Hmm, it's a bit ambiguous, I would tend to interpret '5+' as '5 or more' axles. Which I think would be most artics, since many tend to have 2 axles for the tractor, 1 axle at the front of the trailer and 2 axles at the rear; the other variant seems to have 2 axles for the tractor and 3 axles at the rear of the trailer. Either way I think a lot of the artics we see are indeed 5 axles.
    Although I think there are a couple of people in CCE who probably know a lot more about it!
    I just found something which said 5-axle artics in the UK can be up to 40 tons loaded weight...jeepers.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  3. crowriver
    Member

    No mention of Ireland here, but these sites show how widespread HGV bans are:

    http://www.eurotruckstops.com/european-hgv-driving-bans/
    http://www.ajdor.co.uk/secondary/EUROPEAN%20HGV%20RESTRICTIONS.htm

    I read somewhere that some cities in Germany ban HGVs outright. Might be related to the Environmental Zones set up in 2007: http://www.environmental-badge.co.uk/en/environmental-badge.html

    Posted 10 years ago #

  4. crowriver
    Member

    The city of Feiburg has some lessons for everyone:

    http://www.livablecities.org/articles/freiburg-city-vision

    http://eltis.org/index.php?ID1=7&id=61&video_id=96

    Posted 10 years ago #

  5. Wilmington's Cow
    Member

    Such a simple idea. I have to admit that when in Dublin recently I hadn't noticed this ban, until poined out in the Urban Design talk thingy and in retrospect had an epiphany that, yes, indeed, the only big vehicles I'd seen were buses.

    Of course, mention this in any way in the EEN and someone will tell us about it being uneconomical, or lead to traffic chaos, or complain that this is just cyclists not wanting to be squashed, rather than it actually just being somehing that would make the city a nicer place to be.

    Posted 10 years ago #

  6. cc
    Member

    Yes, the riverside roads in central Dublin used to be wall to wall huge lorries going to and from the docks. And lots of buses. And loads of commuters in cars. Epic traffic jams. To get the HGVs out of the city centre they built the Dublin port tunnel - a saga comparable to Edinburgh's trams as I recall. Nice to hear that they eventually succeeded, and that Dublin may now be more pleasant than it was then.

    Posted 10 years ago #

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