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Dismount

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  • Started 12 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
  • Latest reply from steveo

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  1. dismount by blackpuddinonnabike, on Flickr

    I will never understand this. You're leaving a shared use path (this is the new bit from NRIE to Niddry), to go onto the road, where you're entitled to cycle, and you're told to dismount. I mean, if you were on a side road you wouldn't have to dismount to leave that side road to join the main road....

    Posted 12 years ago #
  2. kaputnik
    Moderator

    "we couldn't be bothered building any more path, so just get ye back into the traffic now, and have a shot at getting your wheel stuck in the drain in the process". And nothing to slow traffic down approaching the junction either. You're on your own.

    Amazingly, this is better than provision on Broomhouse Path, but that just speaks volumes of the latter.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  3. Snowy
    Member

    That is just laziness of the highest order.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  4. Smudge
    Member

    Is there an easy way to complain about pointless/incorrect signs?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  5. fimm
    Member

    On the other hand, I found this:

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    My boyfriend couldn't work out why I was getting so excited :o) I bet it has been there for ages but I'd never noticed before.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  6. Rabid Hamster
    Member

    Re Niddry to NRIE: That's utter cr*p! I'm gobsmacked that CTP money gets spent so badly by our wonderful Council! Mibbe the road infrastructure designers need to consult potential users? Or I could be wrong, and this is another 'stop gap' till a bigger infrastructure project sweeps over it?

    Posted 12 years ago #
  7. The thing is, the road itself can only be used by buses, taxis, and bikes, so I'm not sure there's a need for an off-road cyclepath - maybe the route will start to get busier once fully, properly, open. I just stuck to the road, though aware an off-road option, no matter how quiet the road, may encourage others to ride.

    The road itself has two pinch points created, with different direction priorities - again not sure those are particularly necessary. But since there's an off road path I can only assume that's why the build outs to create the pinch points don't have bike cut-throughs.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  8. AKen
    Member

    The thing is, the road itself can only be used by buses, taxis, and bikes, so I'm not sure there's a need for an off-road cyclepath -

    It perhaps follows the fundamental rule of cycle-facility provision in the UK, that is "Cycle facilities will be provided where it is easy to provide them, not where they are most needed".

    Posted 12 years ago #
  9. "Cycle facilities will be provided where it is easy to provide them, not where they are most needed".

    Aye.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  10. Calum
    Member

    Facility of the Month beckons...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  11. BenN
    Member

    @fimm - I noticed that cycle path too the other day, well out of the door zone, but then noticed that at either end of that parking area is a large pavement build out that comes to the inner edge of the cycle path; thus all they have done is drawn the path in a straight line rather than swerve it back in be closer to the parking. You can guarantee that if the pavements only stuck out as far as the edge of the parking, that's where the cycle path would be...

    Posted 12 years ago #
  12. Min
    Member

    I suppose we should be grateful that they have actually put a dropped kerb in. Nice puddle to go along with it too.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  13. DaveC
    Member

    I cycle on the North side of St Andrew Sq a little when I come in over Dean Bridge and along George St. The real problem there is the entrance to North St Andrew Sq from north bound on the the Sq (George St etc) as the west end of North St Andrew Sq is still a temporary mess of non pedestrian/cyclist friendly lights.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  14. gkgk
    Member

    Re the Dismount one: I wonder how they do the accounting for these bits of out-of-the-way pavement where they paint a bike path on for each 20m section between junctions. Would the entire cost be chalked up as bike investment, or just the sign and paint, I wonder. It'd be a quick way to claim to be spending 5% of transport budget on bike stuff.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  15. gdm
    Member

    The St Andrews Sq lane is a prime example of the lack of joined-up provision. It's all very well designing something that works along the single straight line of a block but it all fizzles out to nothing the second you come to a junction.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  16. Baldcyclist
    Member

    regarding original image, doesn't that sign simply say.... 'If you intend to carry on your journey using this infrastructure which is no longer shared (ie The Path), please dismount.'

    Posted 12 years ago #
  17. Hmmm, interesting reading of it which could be true - although having seen 100s of cyclists dismount signs where that very clearly isn't the message I do suspect (though this is only supposition) that's not the case here either.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  18. Min
    Member

    A simple "End of cycle path, you are now being dumped onto the wrong side of the road" sign would be much less ambiguous.

    Posted 12 years ago #
  19. steveo
    Member

    Yeah I'm never sure why they're not "cyclists rejoin main carriage way" signs

    Posted 12 years ago #

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