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  1. custard
    Member

    Thanks for the feedback
    I'm off next week
    so will be popping into stores for a look around
    I know Evans had a Tiagra Caad 8 on the floor

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. custard
    Member

    Just to update
    been looking around and favouring the Caad 8

    So to my point
    I went to EBC and had a seat on the 56 which the sales guy stated as my likely size
    had me on it,checked standover height etc and said it was a good size for me.
    I wasn't so convinced (I dont know road bikes though)
    Tried a 54 in Evans which is more the size I thought I would be
    sales guy suggested i might even be better with a 52 to allow for a higher seat position to match the geometry
    So theres 3 sizes for one guy on the same bike
    Guy in Evans was very helpful and looked to see if they had an 52s in but sadly not. suggested test riding a 52/54 when they get them in

    Now was the guy in EBC right(to his thoughts on fit) or could a reputable bike shop try and sell a 56(the only 2013 Caad they had left) despite it not being the right size?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  3. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I did a bike measurement thing once and was told I should "on paper" have a 60cm frame (I'm 6'1).

    I currently ride a 57cm and a 58cm when it comes to road bikes. One is an old straight top-tube bike and the other is a CAAD9 from a few years back, which is near enough straight.

    I think nearly everything these days comes with same sized cranks*, so as long as you can get comfortable reach and saddle height/position there's probably no "right" answer, particular with compact geometry frames, whose sizing is theoretical anyway, based on what the bike might be if it had a proper straight top tube. I personally find it preferable to buy somthing a little bit smaller and to extend seatposts / stems as required, rather than trying to stretch out on something too long.

    * a particular bugbear of one G. Obree.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  4. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    EBC used to be notorious for selling people "gates". I was pretty surprised at the enormity of the frame when I went to collect my first EBC bike.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. amir
    Member

    Effective (horizontal) top tube length is important.

    There are calculators of "ideal" frames given the type of rider that you are. See for example:
    http://www.competitivecyclist.com/Store/catalog/fitCalculatorBike.jsp
    In the end, you are best to test ride.

    BTW I wouldn't necessarily believe the sales guys at either EBC or Evans.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  6. gembo
    Member

    @ custard - wht height are you?

    I am 5 10.5 (true) and have 56.5, 57, but actually have shorter legs and longer back so ideally wold like a bigger bike lengthwise but this is always poo-poohed in the shops. I adjust the stem to increase reach but tht seems marginal. Bigger stem might do it. CAAD 8 I felt had a longer reach but poorer spec than the bike to work buster I went for.

    Depends where the measurements are taken?

    If your toes were on the ground with the seat post it of the frame a bit then the 56 was maybe right. But if you were not convinced then tht would niggle if you went and bought it.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  7. custard
    Member

    Im about 5" 9'
    The 56 & 54 felt okay for reach. The 54 would have needed the saddle up for me
    I do quite like a long reach
    however I didnt like the lack of standover on the 56
    it wasnt right(cough) up,but a bit closer than i like

    Posted 11 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    Ah, I see. You can give yourself a nasty bruise in an area you might need some day if that sort of thing is not right

    Posted 11 years ago #
  9. custard
    Member

    http://www.cannondale.com/gbr/catalog/product/view/id/32259/s/caad8-6-tiagra/category/924/

    looking at the geometry
    I would think a 51(big drop from 54?) would be too short?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. custard
    Member

    Raging!
    My employer has decided to up C2W to £1k,after I ordered a £500 voucher!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. custard
    Member

    Okay Im back out of my huff.
    Ordered one of these

    http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_992074_langId_-1_categoryId_165710#tab1

    Voucher costs me £450 for £500
    Joined British Cycling with discount code,so about £23
    combined 10% off on Halfords site and British cycling 10% gave me £485 or so
    grabbed a brush set and little scooter toy to make £500
    Not amazing spec but for the money its okay?
    The 2014 Sora shifters seem to have dropped the little shifter buttons

    As and aside. The next model up with carbon fork has one ugly brake mount!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  12. Stickman
    Member

    Nice bike Custard. My work's halfords cycle scheme opens soon and that's one of the bikes I'm considering. A quick review of it would be appreciated once you've done a few miles on it. I'd be particularly interested in how it copes with the rubbish road surfaces.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  13. custard
    Member

    Well I have a good comparison
    The hybrid is similar in spec/weight
    So I'll be interested to see for myslef
    hoping to have the funds fro a decent road bike to add next year
    when i was in,someone as taking the next model up away. I prefer the black to the silver

    Posted 11 years ago #
  14. gembo
    Member

    Looks good, the original boardman, the red one is £499 but no disc brakes. The one you have gone for looks the best.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  15. custard
    Member

    Okay then,picked up the bike Friday evening
    Worked all day Saturday,so today was my chance to have a good look.

    Lets start with the bad

    missing valve cap
    front mech wasnt shifting from the big ring,adjustment screws screwed in tight

    grub screw on one of the inboard brake levels loose,with the pivot pin(?) falling out!

    pedals attached by Hulk Hogan

    front reflector angled up,rear fitted tight to the seat. meaning it needs moved to adjust the saddle

    useless bell already not working after two uses

    rear brakes rubbing. I have left it to see if it beds in

    some sort of brown overspray on the bar tape. I thought it was packaging sticking by static cling on collection,however Im thinking its copper grease overspray

    So some minor,some annoying(gears are nice to have!) and some dangerous. That brake pivot could be a nasty one

    Now to be fair,the 10% offer meant bikes had to be collected by Friday. So im guessing the staff are hammered with bike builds
    However thats not the customers fault

    To the bike!
    Bit more decals than I would personally choose
    Seems to have decent clearance and has mounts for rack and proper mudgaurd.
    However I can see the front guard required a bit of bending to get round the caliper.
    Hopefully the brakes will bed in as right now they have no power
    The drops will take some getting used to. I havent ridden a bike with them in about 30 years :o and that had downtube shifters.
    I like it though. Those bigger tyres make it nice over the bumps road tyres punish you with.
    The secondary brake levers are nice for a drops noob
    The Sora groupset doesnt seem the smoothest but it does the job,when i remember which lever does what!

    I see Halfords are out of the £899 Team CX,so i guess its going to be popular

    Posted 11 years ago #
  16. Stickman
    Member

    "I see Halfords are out of the £899 Team CX,so i guess its going to be popular"

    I read elsewhere that there is a production fault with the Team model. There is a crack in the paintwork, might just be superficial. As a result they've all been taken off the shop floors and removed from the website until they figure out if it's just a bad batch or a fundamental design flaw.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  17. custard
    Member

    Dunno,but they were selling them as I saw one getting taken out when I was in last week

    Posted 11 years ago #
  18. Stickman
    Member

    Think it only came to light in the last few days.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  19. custard
    Member

    Maybe fix that ugly carbon disk mount too!
    Though I note a few company's are doing that caliper on legs design

    Posted 11 years ago #

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