The sun suffers from poor situational awareness. I suggest a £5000000000000000000 scheme to roof over the A9.
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Is dualling the A9 really that bad?
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Posted 8 years ago #
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"Man who led A9 anti-speed camera campaign caught speeding.." Press and Journal Mike Burns mentioned earlier on this thread, seems to be complaining that the weather was worse and traffic busier when he was caught speeding, than the Police said it was?
Posted 7 years ago # -
:-) I'll have to send that to my other half, he's always complaining about other drivers whizzing past him (on the A9) whilst he's sticking faithfully to the limit. Good to see they are making a difference though.
Posted 7 years ago # -
That road is a chore and I was closed to being killed.
Posted 7 years ago # -
"Man who led A9 anti-speed camera campaign caught speeding.."
Hahaha!
Posted 7 years ago # -
Latest report on A9 speed cameras out today: "4 fewer people have been killed, 22 fewer seriously injured and 62 fewer people slightly injured on the A9 in this 18 month period compared to the equivalent baseline period."
Posted 7 years ago # -
Of course, Scot. Govt. have completely ruined the chance of getting any meaningful stats since they increased the speed limit for HGVs at the same time as introducing the cameras.
Changing two things at once makes it very difficult to separate out the stats.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Did they increase the speed limit for HGVs? I know that the Westminster government did, but I hadn't heard that the Scottish government had followed suit
Posted 7 years ago # -
The HGV limit on the single carriageway sections of the A9 is 50mph, as a temporary measure.
Posted 7 years ago # -
After the speed limit was increased for HGVs on the A9 single carriageway (between Perth and Inverness), I think 4 out of the first 5 fatal crashes involved HGVs, but I don't know how what proportion did before. The other one seems to have involved a driver who was high on drugs, swerving across the road and killing himself and another driver.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Out of interest - does anyone know what caused the cycle path to be built parallel to the A9 from Dalwhinnie to Pitlochry?
Seems to date from about 2000, but I can't seem to find much about it on the internut.
Posted 7 years ago # -
@Saddle - I don't but totally love that path:-
Twixt railway line
And the A 9Posted 7 years ago # -
@Rosie
The gorge of the Garry is....gorgeous too. You just don't see it from the road.
Posted 7 years ago # -
IWRATS I think Sustrans had something to do with the building of that path.
What do you mean by "what caused the cycle path to be built parallel to the A9"?Posted 7 years ago # -
Tulyar might have more information about that path.
Posted 7 years ago # -
@fimm
I was wondering what set of political circumstances caused a segregated cycle facility to be constructed in the middle of a wilderness.
Who backed it, and who were the intended users?
Posted 7 years ago # -
@Arrelcat
Excellent idea, thanks. PM on its way.
Posted 7 years ago # -
The gorge of the Garry is....gorgeous too. You just don't see it from the road.
I've canoed down through there. If you're lucky enough to be there on a sunny autumn day when the tree are changing colour, the afternoon sun comes into the gorge at a shallow angle and the effect is breathtaking.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Intended users?
People cycling from Lands End to John O Groats (or vice versa), perhaps?And it isn't really "in the middle of a wilderness", it's next to a busy dual carriageway and a railway... should we be asking why they are there too? ;-)
Posted 7 years ago # -
it isn't really "in the middle of a wilderness"
Well I couldn't get a spiced chai frappuchino for love nor money....I'm not objecting to its presence, just very very confused about why it was allowed.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Was the path alongside the A9 part of the early 1990s plan for a 1000 mile cycle route from Dover-Inverness?
Some of the reason why the A9 path was built was the differences between Trunk roads and Council roads. In other parts of the country there are often quiet Council roads that cyclists could use to avoid trunk roads. But alongside parts of the A9 there wasn't even the old disused road available, so the Trunk road managers were persuaded that they had to do something for cyclists, and a separate path was built to link between the sections of minor roads and underused sections of old road. If it had been up to Highland or Tayside Regional Councils I expect they would have spent the money on different parts of their areas where more cyclists would benefit instead of part of the A9.
There are other places where Trunk Road schemes have included cycling facilities that hardly anyone would use and sometimes don't even connect up with any other useful sections eg A7 near Teviothead south of Hawick, where substandard cycle/pedestrian paths were included on both sides of a widened, straightened section of little-used trunk road.
There are also some places where Trunk road cycle facilities have been useful and have actually linked communities for cyclists, rather than dividing them as Trunk roads sometimes do.
Posted 7 years ago # -
"
Speed cameras prompt big drop in casualties on the A9
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http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/14991314.Speed_cameras_prompt_big_drop_in_casualties_on_the_A9
Posted 7 years ago # -
Yeah but I can't speed. SPEEEEEEED
*froth*
Posted 7 years ago # -
Yes its bad because then may not be able to cycle on it
Posted 7 years ago # -
"Back in 2008, three years before ministers announced the 2025 completion date, Transport Scotland told me that dualling the A9 was a “long-term investment plan - taken forward in stages, as funding and resources are available”.
The project may yet revert to that previous status."
Or maybe it should just be mothballed indefinitely and money spent on rail and active travel instead?
Posted 7 years ago # -
"may not be able to cycle on it"
Don't think you'd want to on most of it, really.
Posted 7 years ago #
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