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Grosvenor Crescent/Palmerston Place

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  • Started 11 years ago by Stickman
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  1. Stickman
    Member

    Ok, so I want to be "nice" and not annoy any poor sensitive souls so I'd like to check something:

    1. The junction from Grosvenor Crescent into Palmerston Place has a yellow "All Traffic" diversion sign, but no explicit "No Right Turn" sign. So am I allowed to turn right here or not?

    2. Is the cut-through from Palmerston Place to Manor Place (beside St Mary's Cathedral) shared use or just a footpath? There is a very obvious desire line on the grass, so lots of cyclists are using it.

    I've been using this route to get to work because of the trambles at Haymarket, and clearly loads of other cyclists do the same, but I want to make sure I'm being "nice" and not giving the rest of you a bad name.

    Posted 11 years ago #

  2. stiltskin
    Member

    You can certainly turn right, but as to the path,not sure. You have to cross the pavement to get to it where you have to dismount if that helps.

    Posted 11 years ago #

  3. cycletrain
    Member

    Unless there are regulatory signs expressly forbiding the right turn, or telling you you must follow a particular path then you can turn right.

    If the path is part of a "road" as defined by law then there should be blue cycle signing to advise you can cycle on it. If the path forms part of the "Core Path" network then it can be used by non-motorised transport (although this will include powered wheel chairs).

    Posted 11 years ago #

  4. DaveC
    Member

    Its not part of the routes 1 or 76 I'm afraid. Its marked as a path (red dotted line - on OSM so I assume its just legal for cyclists. I have used it in the past, and would prefer a telling off from a bobby to having to cycle from Palmerston Place right onto Chester Street.

    Posted 11 years ago #

  5. panyagua
    Member

    I go that way every day I cycle to work. I must admit I do cycle on the pavement for the very short stretch between the dropped kerb and the gateway onto the path, and then divert onto the desire path on the grass. I realise that's technically 'not nice', but I try to mitigate by being 'nice' to pedestrians and proceeding at walking pace or less, and waiting for large gaps in the foot traffic.

    My view is that's reasonable payback for the decidedly 'not nice' lack of provision for safe cycling through the tramwork diversions.

    On the plus side, turning right out of Grosvenor Crescent into Palmerston Place (when all the motor traffic turns left) does mean that we can pass buses on the 'nice' side.

    Posted 11 years ago #

  6. Instography
    Member

    I use that path all the time. I sort of hate the 'desire line' which has only really appeared since the tram works because it seems it only exists because of cyclists too impatient to be bothered moving at the pace of pedestrians. But maybe the pedestrians prefer it that way too.

    Coming into town, as well as using the uncertain path, I turn left at the end, potentially against the flow of the traffic (although the traffic never uses that lane) so that I can turn right onto Melville Street.

    Probably definitely not "nice" but the alternatives seem much worse.

    Posted 11 years ago #

  7. Stickman
    Member

    Agreed, I made the mistake of following the traffic round onto Chester Street then up to Melville Street on my first commute. Scary turn right then cobbles meant I decided to take the above route. Feels safer, and I'm glad it's an acceptable route (and quicker!)

    Posted 11 years ago #

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