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Crikey, I built a wheel...

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  • Started 11 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
  • Latest reply from Coxy

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  1. With Sheldon holding my hand, and the spirit of Instography hovering, I managed on Sunday to lace up my new front wheel, and last night got it all tensioned. It's a tiny tiny tiny bit out of true which I'm hoping to sort tonight.

    Hoping to have both wheels on the bike this weekend for a shakedown on Sunday. They don't half look purdy with the wee orange flashes on the nipples and the QR lever...


    Untitled by blackpuddinonnabike, on Flickr

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. DaveC
    Member

    Give us more info please? Like what hub, rim and spokes you have. Where you got them - esp spokes, and how you chose them - again probably just the bit about spokes. Are there interweb books in the library that I can borrow - to learn about spokes and what sizes are best etc...???

    Cheers, I'll keep this from the Shed Bike guy? Lost business and all that? ;O)

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  3. H Plus Son Archetype (polished) rims (slightly wider than usual road rims which apparently makes clinchers feel like tubs);

    Shimano Deore XT M765 (Disc) hubs (went with a balance between practicality (easy to service), price (much much cheaper than Hopes), and performance (some very good reviews);

    Crank Bros split skewers (on a whim, sale at Planet X, with orange lever);

    Orange nipples from the wonder of eBay that seem to have had the anodized orange survive the spoke key nicely;

    Spokes from SJS Cycles - no name, but double butted (apparently that's good).

    All guidance came from Sheldon's page on how to lace up a wheel 'three cross' (basically the 'leading' spokes cross three 'trailing' spokes - on the outside of the first two, then the inside of the third). It took a coule of read-throughs to get my head around some sections, but it was all actually quite intuitive. I did have a worry that it wouldn't tension up properly, but it feels like a really solid wheel (and having learned as a built it I'm confident I can fix anything that goes wrong - that'll be tested when I build the back wheel).

    It's quite a relaxing job to do actually. Much more so than setting up brakes or gears. Kind of like basket weaving.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  4. Cyclops
    Member

    I use Gerd Schraner's book, he is pretty biased toward DT Swiss but there are plenty other brands which work just as well.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/26719057/Gerd-Schraner-The-Art-of-Wheel-Building

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. DaveC
    Member

    So you're getting a Pendleton / Pashley next then?

    Thanks, I'd love to have a go at wheel building, but I like you would appreciate this much talked about wheel build class people have talked about doing. I would want to build a front wheel first but already have a spare atm, and starting with a rear might be tricky. With the front Deore XT having a disk, how difficult was it to bias the rim?

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  6. Instography
    Member

    See, I said it was easy. When I did my first wheel the main mistake I made was to true it only by adding more tension to spokes rather than shifting the balance between spokes. Tighten, tighten, tighten.

    If the overall tension is right (how do you know? Get a wheel you're happy with and feel the tension needed to turn a spoke. That sort of tension). The only thing I'd suggest now, is that you true by a combination of tightening one side and slackening the other. Let's say it needs pulled a little to the right, maybe only half a turn's worth - I'd do a quarter turn on the spoke pulling to the right and slacken the spokes on each side by an eighth of a turn. Same effect but less overall tightening.

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  7. It seems to have happened pretty naturally with the different length spokes. Certainly I deliberately use the MTB forks to mount the wheel in as a truing stand because the legs are perfectly straight, which makes it easier to judge I think. It's sitting perfectly centred between those legs - nicely dished (though it's a smaller dish than on a rear wheel).

    Not sure what I'll do with the rear as the hub is wider so it won't fit in the MTB forks.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  8. Instography
    Member

    Borrow a truing stand. Mine collapses to a wee thing. Can bring it in.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  9. amir
    Member

    That looks lovely and shiny.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. Wheels went on at the weekend


    Cotic Shine by blackpuddinonnabike, on Flickr

    They roll beautifully, and just look the absolute business. Got some new Ultremo ZX Twins on order (the twins have slightly tougher sidewalls, teeny bit heavier, but nice to have the added security), that have more white than black. It was a toss up between the black and orange, or the white, and I just like the look of the white, 'specially with the polished rims.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. Coxy
    Member

    Cool - I've been looking at the polished Archetypes for my next project. Where did you get them from?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  12. Hubjub, had them a bit cheaper than I'd seen elsewhere (£90 for the pair I was).

    Posted 11 years ago #
  13. Coxy
    Member

    Ta.

    On the rear wheel: disk side leading spokes - heads in or out?
    ;)

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