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Work colleague taken out by a pedestrian

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  • Started 11 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
  • Latest reply from Claire

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  1. Sadly not in the 'taken out for a drink' sense.

    Coming across Tollcross, heading onto the short West Tollcross street. There are always lemmings there, so you pay close attention, which my colleague was doing. Two women about to cross, stopped at the kerb, he'd already slowed down a bit just in case. One of the ladies then launched herself straight out into the road with nary a glance to her right and bang into his path.

    Her excuse was that she was on her meds and they affected her concentration, she appeared unhurt though. He's got a nasty cut to his elbow for his troubles (but thankfully not much else). He hasn't checked the bike over properly yet.

    It's definitely a nasty bit that, and chatting with someone else at work we agreed that Edinburgh can be awful in places for pedestrians with some confusing, or blind, crossings, while at the same time looking before crossing is pretty fundamental, and she's quite lucky our colleague had slowed already, and that he wasn't in a car.

    On that bit this morning I had no trouble at the entrance to the street, but turning right at the end there was a pedestrian walking on the road on the outside of the railing. Now that in itself isn't much of an issue, plenty space. Except she was walking a yard out into the road and staring into her phone.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  2. cc
    Member

    Commiserations to all involved.
    I have recently noticed a lot of people just launching themselves into the road without looking. Is it the weather? The festival? I dunno.

    It helps to (a) be on the lookout for potential lemmings and (b) not be afraid to ring your very loud bell like mad as soon as you spot any, to get their attention before they leap off the cliffkerb. If they think you're mad, tough. Also (c) go slowly in the presence of lemmings.

    Every time I've gone down MMW recently my bell has been ringing pretty much non-stop all the way from Forest Road to Argyle Place. So many lemmings, so many tourists, wandering about all over the cycle path.

    A friend used to have a painfully loud aerosol air horn he got at a yacht chandler's. I'm tempted.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  3. gibbo
    Member

    I walked in front of another cyclist a couple of weeks back.

    Fortunately, he was going uphill (London Rd end of Marionville Rd), so wasn't going fast and there was time for him to ring his bell and for me to get well out the way.

    My point is that even pedestrians who are "cyling aware" can have brain freezes from time to time.

    As CC said, you need to try to spot these people and give yourself options.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  4. That's the thing though. He had. He'd slowed down, then the pedestrian had stopped at the kerb. Then juuuuust as he got to going past launched herself into the road.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  5. cc
    Member

    That's where the loud bell comes in handy. Whenever you spot a potential lemming, ring your bell like crazy to make them turn and look at you.

    Maybe as an alternative you could fit an iPod+speaker playing the noise of a car engine at full volume...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  6. But is someone who has walked up to the kerb, then stopped, a potential lemming? If they are then we're all going to be ringing our bells constantly as we ride along any road and across any junction...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  7. minus six
    Member

    all peds are potential lemmings until there's eye contact and a loud Oi! to accompany it

    even then all bets remain off until you have passed on by

    its a goldfish bowl world out there

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  8. BikeFan
    Member

    Didn't you road test a fork replacement thingy which had two wheels, so effectively you were riding a trike, a while ago?

    How about adapting it to a snowplough attachment, so the dopey beggars get bounced out of the way? Just a thought . . .

    Posted 11 years ago #
  9. cc
    Member

    we're all going to be ringing our bells constantly as we ride along any road and across any junction...

    For added safety we could also cry "Unclean! Unclean!" as we ride along.

    Seriously though, ludicrous amounts of bell-ringing seems to be the thing to do at the moment at least on MMW. It does seem to help.

    I like the cow-catcher idea too.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    Festival a lot worse as people often very drunk at any time of the day

    The little mini-roundabout at cowgate-grass market-candle maker row has seen some odd driving this week. Ususally traffic only goes east west or wet east. Very occasionally someone goes up or down candle maker row. Twice this week someone as done a complete u turn. One bamboozled French driver who also thought might have had priority as was on roundabout and a local white van driver who was at it and then caused more bother down the cowgate.
    You think you have seen everything but you haven't

    The ped on meds for Tourette's?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  11. fimm
    Member

    Don't the Dutch go around ringing their bicycle bells all the time?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  12. Love the cow catcher idea.... Need an effective sideways evacuation ejector seat built in....

    Posted 11 years ago #
  13. cc
    Member

    @fimm From what I saw in the Hague you get the occasional ping but mostly people just quietly avoid each other because there's plenty of space and they generally all have their own bit of the road, there's far less competition/conflict (between pedestrians & bicycles, bicycles & cars, etc.)
    Lots of pings in Amsterdam though, far more seamy sort of place, lots of druggies and drunk tourists. Think Mos Eisley.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  14. "Think Mos Eisley"

    That sums it up perfectly. There's a certain British crowd that will go to Amsterdam, usually stag dos, but also just generally groups of lads. They seem to think because there's a red light distrcit where women flaunt themselves in windows, that means they can just proposition any women in the street. Walked behind a group that effectively shouted some rather innappropriate stuff at every woman cycling past - made me ashamed of my nationality.

    All these guys seem to think they're some sort of Adonis as well, whereas generally they're pot-bellied eejits.

    Anyway, back OT. I've been pondering some more, and may well consider a wee ping at conflictual junctions...

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  15. lionfish
    Member

    I remember seeing an advert from 100 years ago for a bell that's constantly jingled by the front wheel - maybe an option for the festival?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  16. wingpig
    Member

    Don't forget the Trotify option...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  17. Claire
    Member

    Bells and shouts do no good with pedestrians walking around with headphones plugged tightly into their lugs :( Many close shaves on shared use cycle paths and on street. Scary!

    Posted 11 years ago #

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