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Started 11 years ago by chdot
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chdot
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SUNDAY parking is to remain free but be capped at two hours in the city centre under a new shake-up revealed today.

New restrictions would see shoppers have to display a ticket at no cost - but face a fine if they do not move their car in time.

It signals the end of unlimited all-day parking on a Sunday with the city council aiming to boost trade by tackling the problem of bay-blockers.

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http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/free-sunday-parking-cut-to-just-two-hours-1-3055326

So more traffic or less driving looking for spaces??

How about introduce charges and pay for a Saturday bus service?

Posted 11 years ago #
SRD
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The consultation the council did (see file below) included a bunch of the options coming up to the transport cttee. From memory most of the proposals were well received - with very strong support for 20mph extension - but restructions/paying for sunday shopping was massively unpopular. Which is a problem for the council, because lothian buses report difficulties negotiating the city on sundays AND they know that many of those who work on Sundays drive in and park all day.

http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/meetings/meeting/3067/transport_and_environment_committee
Item 7.1 - Local Transport Strategy 2014-2019 - Consultation Version (Reports, PDF, 2.99 MB)

Posted 11 years ago #
cb
Member

Quite interesting comments from the two regular Sunday parkers.

A student from the southside and someone from Meadowbank, so hardly miles away from the centre.

"It may have become harder to get a space over the years, as people park in spaces all day. But I’ve found there to be enough of a turnover of parking spaces throughout Sundays and have always managed to find a space eventually."

I wonder what 'eventually' means.

Posted 11 years ago #
Wilmington's Cow
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The student's comments were interesting: "It will make me use public transport more, though, which I suppose is good for the environment and the city’s congestion problems. I’m glad they’re still keeping it free but it’s going to be quite annoying."

So basically, I could get a bus, but don't...

As for someone driving from Meadowbank to the City Centre. Blimey. And this comment I don't understand....

"Over the past few years, travelling around Edinburgh city centre has been stressful between the tram works and assorted road works. But Sundays have been less affected, thanks in part to free parking"

Since when did the tramworks and road works stop on a Sunday for free parking?

Posted 11 years ago #
crowriver
Member

Charging for parking is unpopular with drivers? Who knew?

In other news just in: Bears use the woods as toilet facilties; Sun rises in the east, sets in the west.

Posted 11 years ago #
Wilmington's Cow
Member

The really amusing thing is that they're NOT introducing charging, but rather a 2 hour limit on freeness.

One of the comments was "What happens if a family go to town, do some shopping, have lunch, and then they're treated like criminals for going over 2 hours". Treated like criminals? Really? That's what they're doing?These people really do need a reality check.

Posted 11 years ago #
AKen
Member

In some parts of Edinburgh, Sundays are dump-your-car-anywhere-you-like day. Try around Chambers Street, if you're curious.

Posted 11 years ago #
SRD
Moderator

Will we get free parking outside mosques on Fridays too?

Posted 11 years ago #
chdot
Admin

Shopping isn't a religion...

Posted 11 years ago #
crowriver
Member

Church congregations would be protected from the new controls with fines only coming into force after 1pm. Re-parking in a nearby bay to avoid a ticket would also be allowed.

It really is very half-hearted.

You can rock up at 8am to (for example) work on a Sunday, then if you time your lunch well, hop in the car and move it at 3pm, to enjoy free parking until you finish at 5pm.

So a very mild inconvenience at best to those 'bay blockers'.

Posted 11 years ago #
cc
Member

Sunday is easily the most horrible day to be in the city thanks to all those thousands of dumped cars lining both sides of the roads. This is a tentative little step in the right direction.

Will we get free parking outside mosques on Fridays too?

Please no! Potterrow and Crichton Street are quite chaotic enough on Friday lunchtimes as it is!

Posted 11 years ago #
Roibeard
Member

@chdot Shopping isn't a religion...

<grin>

Let's see...

Do folk find fulfillment by shopping?

Do they define themselves by their purchases?

Do they find their meaning in it?

Do they sacrifice to be able to do it? (Not just blood, although that may happen at the Sales, but time, money, and credit rating)

Do they continue to shop even in the face of logic? (I already have enough... I can't realistically afford...)

Do they seek immortality or a lasting legacy through their purchases?

Ticks more boxes than Jedi...

Robert

Posted 11 years ago #
Wilmington's Cow
Member

@Roibeard - nailed it! :D

Posted 11 years ago #
Coxy
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Roibeard - I've sent you a PM.....
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Posted 11 years ago #
Klaxon
Member

I take it that by enforcing a time limit on bays this will mean all single yellow lines need to also be in force for the controlled period on Sunday? That's a big big cut in the volume of vehicles that can be parked. A good thing really.

Posted 11 years ago #
chdot
Admin

"this will mean all single yellow lines need to also be in force for the controlled period on Sunday?"

Interesting point.

Posted 11 years ago #
crowriver
Member

Tucked away in the Transport Committee papers, it seems that amidst the furore over Sunday parking, the EEN has missed a trick:

"Parking Charges on Greenways within the Controlled Parking Zone

The main aim of Greenways in Edinburgh is to ensure fast and reliable bus services to and from the city centre during peak times. This helps to encourage more people to use buses in Edinburgh, thereby reducing congestion and pollution, improving road safety and providing better links for cyclists.

Outwith peak times many Greenways are also used for parking or loading purposes. However, throughout the Controlled Parking Zone (CPZ) parking charges apply on side streets along Greenways routes. It is proposed to address the issue where Greenways parking places within the CPZ are available to use free of charge, while customers need to pay to park in surrounding streets, these areas include; Dalry Road, Glasgow Road (Wester Coates), Gorgie Road, Leith Walk, Lothian Road, Leven Street and Haymarket Terrace.

Recommendations

It is recommended that Committee:
1 approves the commencement of the statutory process to change the existing traffic regulation orders and to introduce parking charges as detailed in this report in all Greenways parking places located within the CPZ; and
2 approves a pilot of a cashless only parking service for Greenways parking places."

Posted 11 years ago #
chdot
Admin

Interesting!

Might get a bit more money for CEC but unlikely to dissuade too many people who 'must' stop closest to their destinations.

Presumably "loading" is still free(?)

Time for 24 hour bus lanes!

Posted 11 years ago #
SRD
Moderator

well spotted both of those points. that will make a big diff.

I was puzzled not to see anything addressing those issues, but had not yet managed to read through all the docs.

hallelujah!

Posted 11 years ago #
cb
Member

Will it make that much difference? There seems to be no policing of the loading bays during the greenway operational hours.
Gorgie Road seems to be particulalry bad.

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