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Cyclist killed in Roslin
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Posted 11 years ago #
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Another tragic addition to the toll this year... if I was in charge of policy here I'd be worried. Something, somewhere is going very wrong to have got to this stage. These are not 'dangerous roads' either...
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Not 'dangerous' per se, but can be tricky.
I have a pretty good idea of where this happened. Heading north it's a descending off-camber left-hand corner with a tightening line, and it's easy to find yourself running a bit too wide if you're going too fast — although that goes for almost every corner ever invented anywhere. And I think, without trying to read too much into a story with little to go on at this time, that speed and/or distraction were likely involved.
How long have the ghost bikes been in place? The number of deaths is getting out of hand.
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As always, speculation is not really desirable.
There's an implication here which may or may not turn out to be accurate -
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He was cycling south when he collided with a north-bound silver Renault Megane Scenic."
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B roads seem to be particularly lethal. I know I avoid them round here (I avoid anything with a white line down the middle to be honest)
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I have cycled that road a few times. Very beautiful but a tricky steep descent with difficult gradients on blind bends.
My thoughts are with the victim's relatives.
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Just watching the news
they are looking for a silver Vectra that may have a damaged wing mirror
Tv showed a junction.
So im guessing its all gone wrong at the junctionPosted 11 years ago # -
I think the Vectra was a different incident
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-23908448
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Re the wing mirror Hit n Run in Forfar, I wonder if the Police are allowed to have a look at the mobile phone mast records.
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Ah :o
didnt catch the startPosted 11 years ago # -
One of those cop car shows had a case where someone had wandered across the road and hit oncoming traffic. They took the drivers phone and found that it had some of the records deleted (don't know how they could tell that if they were deleted) but couldn't pin a driving using a phone charge.
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And then there was this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazir_Ahmed,_Baron_Ahmed
Admitted using his phone but not at the time of the impact.
Posted 11 years ago # -
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Colin Bain (@cajster3108)
01/09/2013 16:43
@CyclingEdin @Cycle_Scotland another one bites the dust RIP my friend. Close to where I live. Is it really worth it?http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-23909112
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A CYCLIST killed in an accident in Midlothian has been named as Dr Stephen Churcher, 46, from Bonnyrigg.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/cyclist-killed-in-roslin-crash-is-named-1-3068961
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This is my village. I have to say I try to avoid the glen during rush hour on both my bike and driving. There are large company car type vehicles that use this route at 5-6pm who clearly think they know the road very well. They drive very fast and very aggressively close to vehicles in front of them.
Such a waste. My Thoughts are with his family.
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I think I know of this victim as he works in the same industry as me. @Lezzles I don't think 5:30pm on a Sat is rush hour for large company car vehicles, this car was driven by a 23yo mother with a young child which might be more relevant context for this incident.
Why do the media always use the "bike collided with a car" phrase which to me makes it seems to almost accuse the slower lighter vehicle? Even in cases of a car running down a pedestrian on footpath, the media report it as "X was in collision with a car" or "X collided with a car".
Tragic loss for his family.Posted 11 years ago # -
Why do the media always use the "bike collided with a car" phrase which to me makes it seems to almost accuse the slower lighter vehicle?
It's better than the usual - "a cyclist was in collision with a car" - which depersonalises the driver, and makes it seem that the driver of the car was not involved, just the willful vehicle, and the collision was out of the hands of the driver
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BBC headline page now says ".... cyclist killed after being hit by a car ..." but the link says "... a collision with a car ..."
@le_soigneur - it was Friday not Saturday.
flowers now mark the scene (looking north/downhill)
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The scary thing is I saw another cyclist coming close to being smeared tonight in Roslin. A builders van reversed out of a side street into traffic and pulled away without looking in his rear view mirrors. A cyclist in white Lycra had been smart enough to check his speed when he saw him reversing out but even then it looked bloody close from my perspective. The passenger in the van saw me with my hand up over my mouth looking shocked and looked a bit embarrassed.
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With what slowcoach has posted, and the article in the papers, the cyclists was going south - uphill. He can't have been going that fast, and would not be likely to swing wide at corners.
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When I posted two days ago I was unaware that Stephen was the parent of my sons school friend. He and his daughter were visitors to our house last year. My son came home from school visibly upset about the loss of Stephen.
Best wishes to Stephen's family and friends.
TJ
Posted 11 years ago # -
EddieD - Correct. The chap was riding uphill. Little chance he was across the white line. Still speculation.
Sympathy to the family. Keep safe out there chaps.
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I was riding up through Roslin Glen yesterday evening - I am in no doubt that either this was the fault of the driver going too fast/getting distracted, or the cyclist suffered some sort of occlusion and crossed the white line. Otherwise there is NO reason why this should have happened. It's on a straight bit of an otherwise dangerous road. I was REALLY surprised at where it was and missed it the first time I rode up.
(please note still speculation but I was amazed at where this happened and we know that there is a chance that the unfortunate cyclist suffered a faint of some sort)
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it's a descending off-camber left-hand corner with a tightening line, and it's easy to find yourself running a bit too wide if you're going too fast
nailed post #3
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I am new here. (I actually joined this forum because of this incident.) I'm sorry for both families involved. It's a real tragedy.
I was riding that road once a week this spring/summer as part of my normal weekend morning spin. Have not been back since last week, except in a car to see where it happened.
When I heard about the accident I assumed it would have been (a) down the bottom at the blind curve or (b) up near the top of the hill where you might try to go right across traffic to go up toward the Roslynlee hospital. At the location where the accident occurred, you could imagine some danger from cars headed south with you - if they were travelling too fast and you veered out a bit to avoid a pothole, but virtually none from northbound traffic. I am very curious to know how this happened just to avoid the same fate on this or a similar road.
Regardless of the cause of the accident, this is a relatively dangerous road due to the occasional high speed of traffic, lack of shoulder, the constant water runoff on the road surface to the north of the park entrance, vegetation extending into the road, and rough pavement. The county really needs to look at it closely.
Posted 11 years ago # -
there is a chance that the unfortunate cyclist suffered a faint of some sort
There was a cyclist killed on the A701 between Peebles and Eddleston last year. Media initially reported quite widely he had some sort of a faint and had crossed into opposing traffic. The final result of the investigation was he had hit or had swerved to avoid a pothole and either been thrown or moved into the opposing traffic.
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Apparently driver lost control, the cyclist was a friend of my sister in law.
Simply wrong place, wrong time - a few seconds either way it would have been ok.
very sad.
Posted 11 years ago # -
Poor guy.
"lost control" is usually some combination of driving too fast, not paying attention or being distracted by something else (phone, radio, reading etc)
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