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Forget going Dutch,Go Japanese!
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Posted 10 years ago #
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But.....don't they cycle on the pavement all the time? The tabloids here would be up in arms!
Posted 10 years ago # -
lets be honest
the whole infrastructure needs redesigned
given its not happening with newly built/designed areas
I dont see it being done to existing areas
However that machine could be a boon to tenement areas
look at Caladoninan Crescent
you have those big bins on the corners
you could have bike storage for 200 bikes on each cornerPosted 10 years ago # -
What an incredibly over engineered solution to bicycle parking and bicycle theft?
Loved the bikes going down into the cavern, like the doors in Monsters Inc.
Stock footage of a white bike being retrieved. The presenter gets his own red one back at the end.
Edinburgh is a densely packed in city with lots of underground space so it might work, however our last two big engineering projects were way over budget and time so could be we stick to Sheffield stands? Simple, elegant, timeless
Posted 10 years ago # -
well it look like these are dig appropriate hole
drop machine into hole
add power/network and seal up
a mere 5 year job methinks ;)Sheffield stands work but provide little security
think how many areas have dense population and little space for bike (or even car!) parkingPosted 10 years ago # -
Forget the bikes just bury these things instead http://www.trevipark.com/viewdoc.asp?co_id=2415 but as with the bikes there are a few key details we spotted back in 1995 at Winterthur with as 29-bike above ground version.
1) level of service the Winterthur unit took 45 seconds for a complete cycle (sorry), so if you were heading for your train, and as normal would be relying on the consistency of journey time (my flat to Central/Queen Street = 7 minutes or 5 riding like a maniac) and you end up as No 3 in the queue to use the bike parking, you will be fidgetting for 1.5 minutes before getting your turn to park, by which time you might as well have walked!
2) one size fits all (not), just ask @laidback @arellcat and even me when I've got the 29" Pennine on the road. In a video of one of these units from 1997 I have images of a standard fleet of hire bikes with a little extension of the binder bolt up above the handlebar stem and a small mushroom on a stick accessory that slots in to an upper location point as the bike is carried down on the giant version of a strowger rotary selector switch, and we play at telephone exchanges. in one of the car versions in Westminster I believe, the early 'software' forgot that it has already filled one of the spaces and tried to fit a second car into the space, sending the first car out through the side of the car park, as this system was fortunately (?) above ground.
One advantage of putting cars in such a storage facility, is that it would feed them out on to the roads network at a rate that allowed for steady dispersal without creating major traffic jams, and if it took so long to park and get to work there would be a subtle driver for people to use cars more efficiently (with more than one person in the car - or use large motor cars with more than 8 seats (as the law describes buses)
Posted 10 years ago # -
Edinburgh already has a large robotic car park if you remember. (Neil Greig fans: yes, he's quoted here!)
If the bicycle park functioned properly I'd be tickled pink to use it. At least wee scrotes would I guess not be able to kick in the door and nick bikes as happens at one of the "secure bike stores" near my work.
Posted 10 years ago #
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