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York Place reopens today(?)
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Posted 10 years ago #
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Yes, they were hosing it down and removing the big plastic barriers this morning.
Cue Citylink coaches bombing along there at 30mph again, making the whole street feel open and welcoming... Magic.
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Cycled from the top of Broughton to the Bus station/St James centre this morning. Looking forward to my commute home now... hopefully with less traffic.
Posted 10 years ago # -
Anybody nearby to take some piccies?
Posted 10 years ago # -
"Anybody nearby to take some piccies?"
Planning to in a couple of hours.
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I have been along it twice this week, second time it was open all the way, but very quiet in fact empty both times until about Hanover St, was nice.
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Had a look around 4:30.
Took quite a lot of photos - will add more over w/e.
All a bit unfinished.
Most obvious thing is that pedestrians have been overlooked - well what they really do rather than 'supposed to do'...
Similar issues at top of Dublin Street.
Posted 10 years ago # -
The stop line for heading down Broughton Street looks a long way back, which at least allows for a bit of unofficial ASL ing for cyclists.
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"The stop line for heading down Broughton Street looks a long way back"
Yes.
Quite odd really - and that cars stop at it.
Maybe there should be a long thin ASL box that cars wouldn't 'creep' into?!
As it is, bikes that have to stop look a bit exposed (and probably illegal).
The fact that cars stop where they do encourages pedestrians to cross. BUT it's green for vehicles to go along York Place...
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This had just come from Broughton Street -
Might be legal, but presumably not what new layout planned for(?)
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Thanks for the photos. It's early days, but so far it looks like a dog's breakfast.
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Wandered past today and, TBH, it looked like an improvement on what was there before. Doesn't make it right, of course ;) It's surely temporary until they sort out the roundabouts and Leith Walk?
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In fact, was it here or somewhere else that I read that the council is waiting for the contractors to clear off before they put changes / some cycling markings down because it would be cheaper for them to do it that way?
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By 6pm yesterday someone had moved that left-hand barrier a wee bit and a taxi driver blithely ignored both the "tram only" and "road closed" signs to go through the gap. Bloody taxis - always ignoring the rules of the road...
In more positive news, by that time the white line removers and painters were just packing up having returned the Albany St/Dublin St junction to its former layout (ie, priority for Dublin St traffic). Didn't stop one fool driving straight across the junction without slowing down, but hopefully these drivers will learn in time..
Posted 10 years ago # -
Trams running the length of the route by December! Trams to Edinburgh Park next month. Full route open for commercial service by next May. Details:
http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/1324/test_trams_to_york_place_by_december_2013
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I assume the first tram that makes it past Haymarket and onto the roads is going to require a cooncil employee walking in front ringing a bell and waving a red flag?
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I rode up Broughton this morning and noticed the no turn right / no U turn signs and went onto the roundabout befor returning to York Place. I expect lots of this though as Taxi's never adhere to road regulations!
This above is supposed to be a copy of chdot's taxi pic from above, don't know why its not working. chdot to fix pls.
ADMIN EDIT
Done - needs image URL, not link URL.
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"and went onto the roundabout befor returning to York Place"
Really?!
You didn't get off and try the pedestrian phases??
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What is that photo actually depicting?
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Taxi which came up Broughton Street and just turned right (light traffic conditions).
Don't know if there were No Right Turn signs in place on that day.
Posted 10 years ago # -
Ah okay. Another way to die on Edinburgh's roads.
I am pretty sure it didn't used to be possible to do that?
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I have tried both: cycling on, to the roundabout and turning back, and dismounting and walking across. I suppose its around the same time to do both. Today I got near the top of Broughton and the lights went green for vehicles so I just slotted into the traffic and rode round. Occasionally I ride up Cathedral Lane also.
Traffic just before 9am uaually backs down to/beyond Albany/Forth Street junctions. I'm not keen on cycling up the outside now they have removed the traffic light at the top of Broughton which was acting like a predestrian refuge island in the middle of the road. It was useful as it pushed trafic going down Broughton St over to the kerb side of the road, but now they tend to try as hard as possible to clip the white lines in the middle of the T junction!
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I am pretty sure it didn't used to be possible to do that?
@Min As long as I can remember, there's been a "temporary" kerb separating the two lines of traffic on that section. Although I can't honestly remember whether that was put in for the tram works or if it had always been like that.
Possibly the latter, for just the reason that our taxi-driving chum in the photo is demonstrating. He'll just spoil it all for the rest of us carrying on like that; and probably ram a cyclist if my experience of taxi drivers' awareness of approaching bikes when attempting a cheeky u-turn or similar manouevre is anything to go by...
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So I was looking at this road layout:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z2ir4ksg18b6clf/IMG_2567.JPG
It looks like they've painted the cycle lane on the wrong side and forgotten to colour it in....
(No idea how to embed this. Please excuse the 'photo filter', my telephone has a new firmware and I cannot work it yet.)
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Ah the nostalgia look! (Sounds more like a software filter setting on your camera app).
Embed - put URL of image (not link) in IMG tags (button above).
Click for full pic (don't know why 'fit image size' no longer works on here. )
I think the hatching is to 'protect' the tram stop.
No room for bikes of course.
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and probably ram a cyclist if my experience of taxi drivers' awareness of approaching bikes when attempting a cheeky u-turn or similar manouevre is anything to go by...
This is what worries me (not just taxi drivers). The old "its only a cyclist" manoeuvre.
Posted 10 years ago # -
Loads of room on York Place for cycles, but they obviously chose not to
allowinclude it.I just amble up the inside, and looking at the photo, they could have placed a completely segregated cycle path:
(think Dutch examples << linky)... by shifting the traffic path to the right in the picture above and remodelling the dropped section of the path on the left.
Posted 10 years ago # -
Aye. Looks like we'll be human traffic calming devices on York Place. Plus ça change...
Posted 10 years ago # -
There isn't enough space on York Place, it is too narrow.
{/sarcasm]
(although we all know that is the actual claim)
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