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"New cameras put city in driving seat for bus lane fines"

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  1. chdot
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  2. steveo
    Member

    Good, few things annoy me more than some idiot driving down the inside of a traffic queue in the greenways.

    Although I think a clock on the lane some where might be useful the (time) clock in my car is often out by a few minutes and can be out either way every time you drive it, got to love French engineering!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. recombodna
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    I'd fine people for NOT driving in the bus lanes when they're allowed to....

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. LaidBack
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    I'd fine people for NOT driving in the bus lanes when they're allowed to....

    I do enjoy a nice wide empty bus lane on a Sunday though... am I being selfish...?

    It is policy to have Sundays as 'drive your car day' and public transport is kept to a minimum to successfully promote this. The net result is that Calders Road (eg) have nice empty bus lanes which the masses stay off.
    This is also an excellent policy to promote cycling, making up a bit for in town bike lanes being parked on.

    I don't have a car so a bit biased though.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  5. Kim
    Member

    Make bus lanes 24 hour, that way we get properly size cycle lanes in the off peak hours ;-)

    Posted 13 years ago #
  6. Have to admit I do see bus lanes as really big cycle lanes and all the better for it (drivers do tend to stay out of them a bit more).

    Although I'm with recombodna, if the lane is open to all traffic then use the damned thing, and don't glower at me in my car using it.

    It does pose a question, why do drivers generally stay out of bus lanes, even when they're allowed in, but not bike lanes?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  7. chdot
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    "why do drivers generally stay out of bus lanes, even when they're allowed in, but not bike lanes?"

    Probably fear of getting done. Some are all day some are not - 'safer' to assume they all are.

    Though there are others who don't seem to know when it's 4.30 (and park)...

    Posted 13 years ago #
  8. cb
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    Outside of bus lane times traffic is generally reasonably free flowing and the advantage of driving a car down them isn't always /that/ great (although at 6.30pm on the dot I will move left!)

    Drivers in general are terrified of the left hand lane if there is /any/ likelyhood of there being a parked car somewhere up ahead, because, shock-horror they will have to make an effort to move back out and - even worse - they might actually get stuck in the inside lane for a while behind said parked car.
    This happens all over the place whether the inside lane is a bus lane or not.

    Drivers who need to turn right somewhere up ahead (even half a mile away) will stick in the right hand lane.

    A good example is heading into town on the Queensferry Road, on the approach to Blackhall, pretty much everyone who wants to fork right at Farmers will be in the right hand lane, *despite* the fact that the left hand lane splits just before the junction to allow you to fork right.
    If the lights are at red then cars will all sit in the right-hand of the two 'fork right' lanes - terrified of being on the left!

    (Also I've spoken to quite a few drivers who 'didn't realise' they could drive in the bus lanes out of hours. What else don't they realise?)

    Posted 13 years ago #
  9. LaidBack
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    cb Drivers in general are terrified of the left hand lane if there is /any/ likelyhood of there being a parked car somewhere up ahead, because, shock-horror they will have to make an effort to move back

    Is it not safer for drivers to be on right hand lane just as it's safer for us not to use bike lanes at edge of road? ;-)

    Are drivers also not cautious about undertaking a line of slower moving traffic too - just as cyclists are?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  10. cb
    Member

    "Are drivers also not cautious about undertaking a line of slower moving traffic too"

    I'd say the opposite. If the left hand lane is clear then traffic can move frightningly fast past the queuing traffic in the right hand lane.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    "
    Bus cameras

    Those of you who follow the blog will know that the committee was also considering a proposal to introduce cameras to monitor parking in bus lanes. The move was approved by councillors, meaning that those parking in the lanes during operational hours could face parking fines.

    A total of five cameras will be introduced throughout the city, rotating between 10 sites. One council official explained that the lanes chosen for the scheme were not necessarily those which saw the most cars parking during hours of operation- instead the focus was on the impact of such parking and the delays caused to public transport.
    Among the most serious problems were those on London Road at Jocks Lodge, where 80 percent of buses experienced delays of between one and three minutes.

    The following sites are part of the project:
    * Calder Junction (Inbound)
    * Hillhouse Road (Outbound)
    * Leith Street (Outbound)
    * London Road at Jocks Lodge.
    * North Bridge (Inbound and outbound)
    * Prestonfield (Bus gate)
    * The Jewel (Bus gate)
    * Willowbrae Road at Jocks Lodge
    * Willowbrae Road at Duddingston Crossroads (Inbound)

    "

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/edinburgh/2010/jul/27/edinburgh-bus-cameras-council-moray-feus

    I thought the buses had cameras anyway that could be used.

    Posted 13 years ago #

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