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  1. crowriver
    Member

    Dear Stakeholder,

    Stakeholder Update 104

    Leith Programme – Phase 4 (Pilrig Street to McDonald Road)
    Weekly lookahead (w/c Monday 24th July 2017):

    With regards to the works and worksite locations for next week, these have been specified and set as the following:

    o Paving from Croall Place N/W corner to Shrub Place Lane set to continue and be completed by mid-next week.
    o Paving towards corner of Brunswick Street set to be completed on this coming Saturday (22nd July).
    o Taring of footway with corduroy paving slabs on Albert Place to begin next week and be completed by Friday 28th July.
    o Taring and slabbing of tactile paving set to begin next Tuesday on corner that meets Elm Row with Brunswick Street. To be finished by Friday 28th July.
    o Slabbing at bus stop shelter on Crighton Place to begin next week and be finished by Friday 28th July. Small section of slabbing on opposite side of the road also to be complete with regards to the same timeframe.
    o Traffic Management plan to be put in place next week allowing for completion of road markings at McDonald Road junction. Road markings to be finished Friday 28th July.
    o Road crossing islands (All three at McDonald Road junction and Albert Street junction) to be completed by Monday 24th July.
    o Taring and completion of curbing at Iona St as well as junction road markings to be done and completed on Friday 28th July.

    Again, we remain on target to have completed our works, allowing the McDonald Road/Brunswick Road to re-open for the Edinburgh Festival embargo, and for all worksite boundary fencing to be removed off site, by the end of July. For the safety of re-opening the junction, we are planning to do this as of Monday 31st July, as opposed to the previous Friday, 28th July.

    Further to this, the demobilisation of the Iona Street compound will commence as of Monday 31st July, with the compound off site entirely by Friday 4th August. At this time, the prohibition on entry to Iona Street from Leith Walk will be in place.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Again, we remain on target to have completed our works, allowing the McDonald Road/Brunswick Road to re-open for the Edinburgh Festival embargo,

    Shame. The closure of Brunswick Road has been a joy as it's closed down a notorious rat run and has been a demonstration that it's really not necessary for every single road between Leith Walk and Easter Road to be open to bi-directional through traffic.

    I can't comment if it's had any knock-on effects at Montgomery Street, but Albert and Iona Streets are also closed for works just now and life goes on.

    I assume the Fire Brigade will be happy to have top of McDonald Road open again, I wonder if the closure of these streets have had any appreciable impact on their response times.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. crowriver
    Member

    "any knock-on effects at Montgomery Street"

    Some effects noticeable, but not nearly as bad as you might imagine.

    Seems true that some traffic "disappears" when roads close. Unlike water in a pipe, drivers make decisions, like not bothering with that trip in the car round the corner to the shop, for instance...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. jonty
    Member

    I wonder how much analysis of this stuff the city does, beyond just collecting data at its normal collection points. Would be really valuable in defending further schemes in the area and beyond. "That wouldn't work in Edinburgh!" - well, actually, it did.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. crowriver
    Member

    Dear Stakeholder,

    Stakeholder Update 104 (Shurely shome mishtake? Ed.)

    Leith Programme – Phase 4 (Pilrig Street to McDonald Road)
    Weekly lookahead (w/c Monday 31st July 2017):

    Following work completed to date we are targeting completing all pre embargo works and removing traffic management on Monday 31st July.

    With regards to the outstanding works and worksite locations for the weekend and next week, these have been specified and set as the following:

    o Paving completion at Croall Place.
    o Outstanding areas of grouting to be completed on Saturday 29th July, including:
    § Croall Place N/W corner to Shrub Place Lane
    § Bus stop shelter at Crighton Place
    § Small section near curb line on Brunswick Street
    § Tactile paving at beginning of Elm Row
    § Any additional small patches that have been left due to technicalities (services, posts, etc)
    o Site clean to be carried out on Saturday 29th July with road brush and footway brush
    o Traffic Signal commissioning at McDonald Road to take place 31st July
    o Demobilisation of the Iona Street compound will commence as of Monday 31st July, with the compound off site entirely by Friday 4th August. At this time, the prohibition on entry to Iona Street from Leith Walk will be in place.

    Following completion of these works we will be working with the contractor to plan the remainder of the works post the festival embargo and will be in touch to provide an update on our action plan post August to allow completion of the works.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. crowriver
    Member

    I can confirm that as of yesterday (Saturday) much of the junction is clear of equipment, fencing, etc. Still rubbish temporary pedestrian crossing though.

    Segregated shared use bike path still blocked at north ramp by barriers, and on pathway by 'men at work' and 'merge lane' signs, and a brown wheelie bin outside the Black Fox. Despite this, I still prefer to use this uphill than brave LW itself south of Pilrig. Convenient for shared use cut-trough by Magnet kitchens showroom as short cut to Brunswick Road, thereby avoiding McDonald Road cyclist mincing junction entirely.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. dougal
    Member

    @crowriver Yes! Discovered this morning that I could go uphill largely unhindered by traffic. All we need now is an effective way to bridge that gap between Brunswick Street and Waverley Station and I'll be set for life!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. crowriver
    Member

    So I had my first experience of the new McDonald Road junction this afternoon. Traffic signals now have a cycle-only green phase, which I must confess took me by surprise. I suspect pedestrians were a bit surprised too when I moved off and they continued to cross despite a red signal for them. Must say though the junction feels easier and safer to use. We will see how that changes once the rat-runners realise the junction is open to through traffic again...

    The barriers have disappeared from the north ramp of the uphill shared use cycle path at Pilrig, which is welcome. However roadworks signage still blocking the path. I almost managed to complete the journey to the Brunswick Road junction, but just after the bus stop there were two unmarked white vans parked neatly on the cycle path. Hopefully this will not be a reoccurring feature of the cycle path or it will be a bit useless. Pedestrians haven't really got the idea yet either, but that is not so surprising as there are no markings indicating the path is for cycling, and what look like blue cycle signs at regular intervals have been greyed out.

    So presumably the bike path is still not officially "in operation" as yet. I'm using it though, and despite the qualifications above, it's quite pleasant to ride on.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. dougal
    Member

    I used the northbound cycle lane this evening and got a few evil eyes from pedestrians. I think the best thing at the moment is not having to ride over all those potholes!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. crowriver
    Member

    "the best thing at the moment is not having to ride over all those potholes"

    It's certainly a big factor.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Crossing Leith Walk from McDonald Road to Brunswick Road this evening and I noticed that there's something new and quite unusual.

    An advanced green for cyclists! I didn't time it but it felt like 0.5s of advance green before lights changed for general traffic.

    Will investigate more on tomorrow's commute.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. kaputnik
    Moderator

    It's more like 1.5s of advanced green on the red light then another 1.5s on the amber. So assuming drivers don't jump off on the advance green, or floor it on amber, you've got a ~3s head start. Which is very welcome for anyone trying to make a right turn here, and also if you were going straight on from Brunswick Road to McDonald Road you were frequently being overtaken and squeezed to the left before you were half way across the junction.

    Photo circulating on twitter, I'll Flickr and embed it here later.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. sallyhinch
    Member

    Hmm, if parked vans are going to be a problem, perhaps a candidate for a human-protected bike lane, Dublin style?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Thought. This might be first example of this sort of light in Scotland. Anyone seen one anywhere else?

    I was going to christen it Ada the Advanced Green Light.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. crowriver
    Member

  16. sallyhinch
    Member

    Exactly so

    Posted 6 years ago #
  17. teddybears
    Member

    There is at least one crossing in London

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  18. ih
    Member

    Swung by the McDonald Road junction today and did a few passes just to see what it felt like. I must say that I was pleasantly surprised that none of the motorised traffic accidentally or deliberately mistook the green cycle lights for a green for them. I feel the cycle advanced green isn't quite long enough for a right cycling turn to beat the straight on traffic, but that's ok, it helps to get ahead of waiting traffic no matter where you're going, especially any left turning heavy vehicles.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  19. Klaxon
    Member

    It seems to be there to properly facilitate the as yet unsigned/painted two stage right turn

    Posted 6 years ago #
  20. wingpig
    Member

    There's also an ASL when emerging from Montgromery At onto Leith Walk, which I met for the first time last week after a few weeks on different routes.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  21. Stickman
    Member

    https://mobile.twitter.com/dougalstanton/status/892639275564621825

    @sallyhinch - we should start planning that Dublin-style protest now: once the works are finiahed its only going to get worse. I'm happy to be involved.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    From Sally's link -

    "

    I Bike Dublin said in a statement: “The group was formed to help create public awareness of cycling as a legitimate mode of transport and to undertake some actions that could be seen as activism, though the initial group is intent on minimising conflict and intends that all of our actions are in accordance with the law.”

    "

    Posted 6 years ago #
  23. dougal
    Member

    I am interested but suspect I pass by too early in the day (7:30-7:45) and rarely see more than two other bikes. Not enough critical mass there!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  24. Klaxon
    Member

    I had a chance to look at today

    The advance start timings could do with being just a little bit longer

    Most cyclists are only 5ish mph or one bike length out of the ASL before everyone behind is able to proceed.

    Given we're getting a 2 stage right turn, there's no reason for the cycle lanes to give up into an advisory state so far away from the junction.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  25. mgj
    Member

    Have to say I missed this new light on my first commute back after holiday this morning; I was stuck behind a bus in the green lane. Road surface is still horrendous with potholes everywhere, so chance to take in such changes is limited. Council did not plan in deliveries to major shops so as usual there was an artic parked outside the Co-op at Pilrig on the double red lines; as a member I may take a picture and raise with the Area Board, as this is not what cooperative values are about.

    Wonder what the uphill will be like? Two lanes parked solid no doubt, with no enforcement. I'm reminiscing about National Route 7 in my head again.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  26. mgj
    Member

    What a waste of time and money this work has been; maybe it will be better when it is finished but at the moment drivers are just taking advantage of extended pavements etc covering where double red/yellow lines were, or greenways, to park with impunity. The black bin at the end of Iona st is daily put back in the cycle lane. Parts of the surface are done but not enough of it that you can look ahead. At McDonald road this morning, the car behind me wanted to move, even though I was waiting for a Fire Appliance with blues and twos on to exit. My ride to work used to take 21 minutes, give or take a minute. The last two days it has been nearer 30, and last night nearly 40 minutes to get home.

    Highlight from last night: double parked car in cycle lane near the old tram depot, despite empty spaces 15 feet ahead (so probably been there for a while). Shoulder checked before trying to go round, and the police car was good enough to let me go, but had no interest in my exhortations to deal with the obstacle.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  27. Frenchy
    Member

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    Is this anyone here?

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  28. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Dear Stakeholder,

    Stakeholder Update 105

    Leith Programme – Phase 4 (Pilrig Street to McDonald Road)

    Leith Programme Phase 4 is currently observing the Edinburgh Festival embargo on road works within the city and, as such, has now demobilised fully from Leith Walk and Iona Street. The Contractor will return to site to re-mobilise and commence the remaining works as of Monday 28th August. Works will include completion of remaining footpath paving at Brunswick Street, and the Leith Walk road resurfacing from Iona Street to Brunswick Street, including construction of the raised tables at the junctions of Iona, Albert and Brunswick Street, with any remaining ancillary works, ie. installation of bicycle stands, also being carried out. Works will also include the implementation of the 2-stage right turn for cyclists at the McDonald Road/Brunswick Road junction, and putting into use the segregated cycleway, for which the Council will be carrying out a focussed communications campaign to provide advice on the use of, and the behaviours associated with, these new elements of the street. It is anticipated that remaining works will take 10 weeks, with traffic management and road closures implemented as required. On recommencement of the project works, the Leith Programme team will continue with the weekly project updates to be issued to all stakeholders with details of the ongoing works.

    Tram to Newhaven

    Further to the Council’s decision in 2015 to investigate the feasibility of taking Edinburgh Tram to Newhaven, a report will be going to Transport and Environment Committee on 4 September 2017 and then to full Council on 21 September 2017 on the suggested way forward.

    The report will give details of the Outline Business Case (OBC) for taking Edinburgh Trams to Newhaven and seek authority from full Council on 21 September 2017 to enter into a procurement exercise to identify a potential contractor for the project. A final decision on whether to proceed and, with which contractor, would be made in Autumn 2018 by Council. The report will be made public on the City of Edinburgh Council website on Tuesday 29 August 2017.

    As such, a request has been made to the Scottish Government to sist (put on hold) the Phase 5 Public Hearing until this decision is made, while any further design/consultation work in regards to Phase 6 has also been stopped at this time. In the event Tram goes ahead, the remaining Leith Programme works will be incorporated into the Tram to Newhaven project. Phase 4 of the Leith Programme (Pilrig Street to McDonald Road) will continue, and will be completed by October 2017.

    If the project goes ahead the construction will take approximately 3 years and will be open to the public by between April - June 2022. Once phase 4 of the Leith Programme is finished in October 2017 there will be no non-emergency works on Leith Walk until Spring 2019.

    The estimated cost of the project including construction costs, risk and inflation is £165.2m. The proposed route goes down Leith Walk and Constitution Street, Ocean Way and along Ocean Drive to Ocean Terminal and beyond. Currently over six million people use the Tram and by taking it to Leith the OBC forecasts this to increase to 13 million. Lothian Buses is also projected to continue to perform strongly.

    Leith is an area of high population density and is forecast to grow further over the coming years. With car ownership low in the area, looking at ways to enhance the public transport system is necessary to avoid congestion and improve air quality.

    The report outlines the planned traffic management approach that would be taken to deliver the project as quickly and as efficiently as possible. How this will be delivered will become clearer in the event a contractor is appointed to take the project forward and works will be coordinated with the Edinburgh St James development. The OBC also confirms that a business compensation scheme will be set up in the event the project goes ahead.

    Further updates will be issued in due course.

    Leith Street Works

    As part of the plan to help facilitate Edinburgh St James and the wider regeneration of the east end of the city, essential works to reconfigure and renew the whole of Leith Street will soon commence.

    To carry out this works programme, a closure of a section of Leith Street is required, between the junction of Princes Street (Waterloo Place) and the turning into Calton Road, for up to ten months. Works will commence from 4 September 2017, with traffic management changes implemented from 5am on Saturday 2 September 2017.

    Leith Street will remain open to pedestrians, cyclists and emergency services throughout the closure. Access to Greenside Row and entry to Calton Road from Leith Street will be maintained for local businesses and parking throughout.

    In order to keep all traffic flowing efficiently throughout the closure, a clearly marked diversion route with increased capacity will be put in place via London Road/Montrose Terrace/Easter Road and then on to Regent Road. This diversion requires additional changes to the traffic signal heads, which will be carried out in phases at each junction from Monday 7 August until 20th August 2017. Each junction will be managed under temporary signals until the permanent signal arrangement is turned on 20 August 2017.

    Several other measures will also be installed on the road network in the city, in order to facilitate the Leith Street works programme:

    A buses/taxis/cyclists only left hand turn from North Bridge to Princes Street.
    A yellow box at the junction of London Road/Blenheim Place.
    Yellow box at the junction of Princes Street/South St Andrew Street.
    Hanover Street/George Street – new restrictions introduced.
    Princes Street/Leith Street - new lining and traffic signals sequence, to reflect the closure.

    The majority of the work required for the above is lining and signing.

    For further information, please see: http://www.edinburghstjames.com/construction

    165 Leith Walk

    The former tram depot (located at 165 Leith Walk) is due for demolition and further communication will follow regarding the programme for these works in the coming weeks. The area will be cleared and a creative workspaces project will occupy part of this site.

    Following our update in Stakeholder Update 100, informing you of the proposed works to the former Leith Tram Depot at 165 and 165A Leith Walk, we have been working with our contractor, Dalton Demolition during this pre demolition phase to ensure all necessary planning approvals are in place. This is currently on programme to be complete by the End of August with a start on site around early September 2017 with preparation works commencing to allow full demolition to commence in October 2017. The works are likely to take 6 months to complete.

    Following completion of the demolition works the area will be cleared and a creative workspaces project will occupy part of this site with the smaller building at the front of the former depot (165a Leith Walk) being retained and refurbished to create a pilot partnership hub delivering local services.

    Should you have any queries, or require any further information in regards to the above, please do not hesitate to make contact by using leith.programme@edinburgh.gov.uk.

    Kind Regards
    Michael Motion

    "

    Posted 6 years ago #
  29. Klaxon
    Member

    Festival embargo applies to leaving Leith Walk like a moonscape without even any nightshift work, but doesn't apply to putting temporary traffic lights at Easter Rd / Montrose Terrace so messing up the very fragile sequencing in the area.

    I filtered past a queue of traffic that stretched all the way back from the Regent Bar to the Canongate this evening, in a single light cycle.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  30. neddie
    Member

    So no segregated cycle route to the top of Leith Walk until 2022...

    Posted 6 years ago #

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